[ih] Pre-1997 TLD manager records

[Marco Davids (Private)]

Oohhh...!

As an employee of SIDN, the ccTLD registry for .nl, which is celebrating 
40 years of .nl this year (and 30 years of SIDN), I would really love to 
have a photocopy of the particular page in that notebook where Jon wrote 
down our delegation!

I propose we start looking for it! ;-)

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Marco


On Thu, 7 May 2026 17:36:26 -0400 vinton cerf via Internet-history wrote:

> There was a physical notebook. I believe it is still in the hands of
> USC-ISI.
> 
> vint
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 5:28 PM Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
>>> I've heard tell that Jon originally kept records of to whom he delegated
>>> TLDs in a notebook
>>
>> I have no idea whether it was a physical notebook, but certainly in ~1989
>> it was still Jon personally who did it. I recall (but have no trace
>> of the email) that Jon politely declined to register 'cern' as a TLD
>> just before CERN connected, and I think he suggested cern.int, but
>> we preferred cern.ch.
>>
>> cern was finally delegated as a TLD in 2014, 25 years after the original
>> request.
>>
>> Regards/Ngā mihi
>>      Brian Carpenter
>>
>> On 07-May-26 21:43, Nigel Roberts via Internet-history wrote:
>>> These steers are helpful particularly when knowing what NOT to expect.
>>>
>>> What I would particularly like to document is how domain registration
>>> records(which included ALL domains at this point) arrived at NSI, and in
>>> what form.
>>>
>>> And go back further in time, if I can.
>>>
>>> On 5/7/26 09:54, Andrew Sullivan via Internet-history wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 11:59:23PM -0500, Greg Skinner via Internet-
>>>> history wrot> You might try the namedroppers list archive <https://
>>>> marc.info/?l=namedroppers&r=1&w=2>
>>>>
>>>> Also, if you only knew about namedroppers from its association with DNS
>>>> working groups at the IETF, it was not only associated with that.  The
>>>> final break happened in, IIRC, 2010, but the association was not very
>>>> well formalized (which partly caused some of the sudden changes to the
>>>> use of the list).  So, don't assume that reading that will also catch
>>>> the relevant DNS WGs (in the unlikely event you did expect that).
>>>>
>>>> A
>>>>
>>>
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