[ih] Pre-1997 TLD manager records

[Eberhard W Lisse]

Marco,

I tried to do something like this for .NA a few years back (getting a look at his notes/tape) even on site, ISI did not want to.

If you were do manage, please let me know so I can try again, this surely is something to frame.

greetings, el

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On May 8, 2026 at 07:50 +0200, Marco Davids (Private) via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org>, wrote:

> Oohhh...!
>
> As an employee of SIDN, the ccTLD registry for .nl, which is celebrating
> 40 years of .nl this year (and 30 years of SIDN), I would really love to
> have a photocopy of the particular page in that notebook where Jon wrote
> down our delegation!
>
> I propose we start looking for it! ;-)
>
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> Marco
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>
> On Thu, 7 May 2026 17:36:26 -0400 vinton cerf via Internet-history wrote:
>
>
> > There was a physical notebook. I believe it is still in the hands of
> > USC-ISI.
> >
> > vint
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 5:28 PM Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history <
> > internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > >> I've heard tell that Jon originally kept records of to whom he delegated
> > > > >> TLDs in a notebook
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea whether it was a physical notebook, but certainly in ~1989
> > > > it was still Jon personally who did it. I recall (but have no trace
> > > > of the email) that Jon politely declined to register 'cern' as a TLD
> > > > just before CERN connected, and I think he suggested cern.int, but
> > > > we preferred cern.ch.
> > > >
> > > > cern was finally delegated as a TLD in 2014, 25 years after the original
> > > > request.
> > > >
> > > > Regards/Ngā mihi
> > > > Brian Carpenter
> > > >
> > > > On 07-May-26 21:43, Nigel Roberts via Internet-history wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> These steers are helpful particularly when knowing what NOT to expect.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What I would particularly like to document is how domain registration
> > > > >> records(which included ALL domains at this point) arrived at NSI, and in
> > > > >> what form.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And go back further in time, if I can.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 5/7/26 09:54, Andrew Sullivan via Internet-history wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 11:59:23PM -0500, Greg Skinner via Internet-
> > > > > >>> history wrot> You might try the namedroppers list archive <https://
> > > > > >>> marc.info/?l=namedroppers&r=1&w=2>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Also, if you only knew about namedroppers from its association with DNS
> > > > > >>> working groups at the IETF, it was not only associated with that. The
> > > > > >>> final break happened in, IIRC, 2010, but the association was not very
> > > > > >>> well formalized (which partly caused some of the sudden changes to the
> > > > > >>> use of the list). So, don't assume that reading that will also catch
> > > > > >>> the relevant DNS WGs (in the unlikely event you did expect that).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> A
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > >
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