[ih] Pre-1997 TLD manager records

vinton cerf vgcerf at gmail.com
Thu May 7 14:36:26 PDT 2026


There was a physical notebook. I believe it is still in the hands of
USC-ISI.

vint


On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 5:28 PM Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> > I've heard tell that Jon originally kept records of to whom he delegated
> > TLDs in a notebook
>
> I have no idea whether it was a physical notebook, but certainly in ~1989
> it was still Jon personally who did it. I recall (but have no trace
> of the email) that Jon politely declined to register 'cern' as a TLD
> just before CERN connected, and I think he suggested cern.int, but
> we preferred cern.ch.
>
> cern was finally delegated as a TLD in 2014, 25 years after the original
> request.
>
> Regards/Ngā mihi
>     Brian Carpenter
>
> On 07-May-26 21:43, Nigel Roberts via Internet-history wrote:
> > These steers are helpful particularly when knowing what NOT to expect.
> >
> > What I would particularly like to document is how domain registration
> > records(which included ALL domains at this point) arrived at NSI, and in
> > what form.
> >
> > And go back further in time, if I can.
> >
> > On 5/7/26 09:54, Andrew Sullivan via Internet-history wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 11:59:23PM -0500, Greg Skinner via Internet-
> >> history wrot> You might try the namedroppers list archive <https://
> >> marc.info/?l=namedroppers&r=1&w=2>
> >>
> >> Also, if you only knew about namedroppers from its association with DNS
> >> working groups at the IETF, it was not only associated with that.  The
> >> final break happened in, IIRC, 2010, but the association was not very
> >> well formalized (which partly caused some of the sudden changes to the
> >> use of the list).  So, don't assume that reading that will also catch
> >> the relevant DNS WGs (in the unlikely event you did expect that).
> >>
> >> A
> >>
> >
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