[ih] New Republic Article - "How We Misremember the Internet’s Origins"

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Sat Nov 2 13:28:36 PDT 2019


John,
Michele Elie was at UCLA during part of the ARPANET work if I remember
correctly and Kahn and I did also see Zimmermann and Gerard LeLann as well
as Louis Pouzin and I think one other person while visiting at IRIA.

v


On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 4:00 PM John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:

> Actually, the first datagram and end-to-end transport protocols were the
> CYCLADES protocols in 1972.  As near as I can tell, the first dynamic
> sliding window protocol was CYCLADES TS developed by Elie and Zimmermann.
>
> John
>
> > On Nov 2, 2019, at 15:47, Bernie Cosell <bernie at fantasyfarm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2 Nov 2019 at 12:31, Bob Hinden wrote:
> >
> >> From reading this article, it would seem that BBN, who designed and
> >> developed the IMP, was located in Cambridge, California, not
> >> Massachusetts.   This was, of course, a much bigger effort than just the
> >> folks in California, nor was it was it only in the US.  Seems like some
> >> of the more recent articles on the history of the Arpanet/Internet are
> >> missing that.
> >>
> >> Bob (who worked at BBN in Cambridge, and now lives in California)
> >
> > Speaking of California, I believe that the underlying ideas about the IP
> portion of
> > the TCP protocol was first tinkered with in the Cyclades network by
> folks, I
> > guess, in Paris CA.   BBN also developed and deployed the TIP, the first
> "dialup"
> > service on the ARPAnet.  Also not in Cambridge, CA.
> >
> > /Bernie\
> >            Bernie Cosell
> >       bernie at fantasyfarm.com
> > -- Too many people; too few sheep --
> >
> >
> >
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