[ih] New Republic Article - "How We Misremember the Internet’s Origins"

[John Day]

yes, that is correct.

> On Nov 2, 2019, at 16:28, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
> 
> John,
> Michele Elie was at UCLA during part of the ARPANET work if I remember correctly and Kahn and I did also see Zimmermann and Gerard LeLann as well as Louis Pouzin and I think one other person while visiting at IRIA.
> 
> v
> 
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> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 4:00 PM John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net <mailto:jeanjour at comcast.net>> wrote:
> Actually, the first datagram and end-to-end transport protocols were the CYCLADES protocols in 1972.  As near as I can tell, the first dynamic sliding window protocol was CYCLADES TS developed by Elie and Zimmermann.
> 
> John
> 
> > On Nov 2, 2019, at 15:47, Bernie Cosell <bernie at fantasyfarm.com <mailto:bernie at fantasyfarm.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > On 2 Nov 2019 at 12:31, Bob Hinden wrote:
> > 
> >> From reading this article, it would seem that BBN, who designed and
> >> developed the IMP, was located in Cambridge, California, not
> >> Massachusetts.   This was, of course, a much bigger effort than just the
> >> folks in California, nor was it was it only in the US.  Seems like some
> >> of the more recent articles on the history of the Arpanet/Internet are
> >> missing that.
> >> 
> >> Bob (who worked at BBN in Cambridge, and now lives in California)
> > 
> > Speaking of California, I believe that the underlying ideas about the IP portion of 
> > the TCP protocol was first tinkered with in the Cyclades network by folks, I 
> > guess, in Paris CA.   BBN also developed and deployed the TIP, the first "dialup" 
> > service on the ARPAnet.  Also not in Cambridge, CA.
> > 
> > /Bernie\
> >            Bernie Cosell
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