[ih] Significant milestones in the history of TCP/IP

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Wed Sep 16 13:48:19 PDT 2015


Pouzin's datagrams influenced my thinking as did his window-based flow
control idea.

v


On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Vint, how do you rate Pouzin's catenet paper (published versions are dated
> 1974) in that part of the story? I was a very remote observer at that time.
>
> (That was during my first spell in NZ and we were trying to make some
> early sort
> of X.25 work between Wellington and Palmerston North, having decided that
> the
> ARPANET protocol was not a realistic option. We picked  X.25 because it
> was just
> then emerging - the original plan was to copy EPSS, the British experiment
> that
> definitely grew out of Davies' work. The NZ Post Office wanted us to copy
> whatever the British did, because that's what they did for all telecom in
> those
> days.)
>
> Regards
>    Brian
>
> On 17/09/2015 07:35, Vint Cerf wrote:
> > INWG was formed in October 1972 at the ICCC meeting.
> >
> > By summer 1973 INWG #39 outlined ideas that eventually were refined and
> > published in May 1974 (cerf/kahn article in IEEE Transactions on
> > Communications)
> >
> > The first full TCP spec is RFC675 December 1974
> >
> > v
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc2 at dcrocker.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/16/2015 6:12 AM, Alex McKenzie wrote:
> >>> Whether anything about the ARPAnet had much to do with the history of
> >>> TCP/IP is a different question, but if people think the answer to that
> >>> question is "yes" then probably both Baran and Davies also belong in
> the
> >>> story.
> >>
> >>
> >> the history of Internet technologies is best viewed as a continuum, IMO.
> >>
> >> that said, for the current exercise, i'm interested in limiting the
> >> scope to the history of major tcp/ip milestones.
> >>
> >> by way of marking a starting point for discussion, the anecdotal summary
> >> i heard a long time ago was that first discussions on internetworking
> >> were held during the arpanet public demonstration, at the first iccc in
> >> 1972.
> >>
> >> i'm not inclined to count that as a 'milestone' but would think that
> >> circulation of the first tcp design would count as the beginning marker
> >> for this timeline.
> >>
> >> but that's just my own perspective, and as i said, this is intended to
> >> be a community (rough consensus) effort.
> >>
> >> d/
> >>
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