[ih] Significant milestones in the history of TCP/IP

John Day jeanjour at comcast.net
Wed Sep 16 13:29:31 PDT 2015


Pouzin was probably the strongest critic of X.25 in the world at the time. ;-) It was got him basically black-listed in France. CYCLADES was shut down because of his criticism of X.25 and the plans of the French PTT.


> On Sep 16, 2015, at 16:03, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Vint, how do you rate Pouzin's catenet paper (published versions are dated
> 1974) in that part of the story? I was a very remote observer at that time.
> 
> (That was during my first spell in NZ and we were trying to make some early sort
> of X.25 work between Wellington and Palmerston North, having decided that the
> ARPANET protocol was not a realistic option. We picked  X.25 because it was just
> then emerging - the original plan was to copy EPSS, the British experiment that
> definitely grew out of Davies' work. The NZ Post Office wanted us to copy
> whatever the British did, because that's what they did for all telecom in those
> days.)
> 
> Regards
>   Brian
> 
> On 17/09/2015 07:35, Vint Cerf wrote:
>> INWG was formed in October 1972 at the ICCC meeting.
>> 
>> By summer 1973 INWG #39 outlined ideas that eventually were refined and
>> published in May 1974 (cerf/kahn article in IEEE Transactions on
>> Communications)
>> 
>> The first full TCP spec is RFC675 December 1974
>> 
>> v
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc2 at dcrocker.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/16/2015 6:12 AM, Alex McKenzie wrote:
>>>> Whether anything about the ARPAnet had much to do with the history of
>>>> TCP/IP is a different question, but if people think the answer to that
>>>> question is "yes" then probably both Baran and Davies also belong in the
>>>> story.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> the history of Internet technologies is best viewed as a continuum, IMO.
>>> 
>>> that said, for the current exercise, i'm interested in limiting the
>>> scope to the history of major tcp/ip milestones.
>>> 
>>> by way of marking a starting point for discussion, the anecdotal summary
>>> i heard a long time ago was that first discussions on internetworking
>>> were held during the arpanet public demonstration, at the first iccc in
>>> 1972.
>>> 
>>> i'm not inclined to count that as a 'milestone' but would think that
>>> circulation of the first tcp design would count as the beginning marker
>>> for this timeline.
>>> 
>>> but that's just my own perspective, and as i said, this is intended to
>>> be a community (rough consensus) effort.
>>> 
>>> d/
>>> 
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