[Chapter-delegates] Comments and feedback on revised charter agreement

[Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond]

Dear Alejandro,

I find these problems to be similar in many organisations that involve a
lot of people but do not have a proper knowledge management strategy.
It's a problem at ISOC Chapter level, at HQ level, but also in other
volunteer-led organisations like ICANN. With time, I have noted that a
lot of history, but also worthwhile projects, fall between the cracks.
Everyone wants to do something but nobody wants to write the painstaking
record of what has happened. It reminds me of my undergrad university
days where everyone wanted to write code but nobody wanted to write the
user manual on how to use the code.
Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 07/09/2017 09:27, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
> Olivier,
>
> were that so, the forgetting that would be unforgivable after nine
> years would be of the substantive collaboration between all parties
> which has been pointed at repeatedly. Carlos Vera, in particular, has
> brought up a very important distinction in what happens when
> fellowships are granted in coordination with the chapters and when
> they are not. The games that can derive from that have already been
> pointed at. The new social compact we need goes beyond the words of
> the Agreement and Charter and seems to have managed to go around the
> ChAC as well. If people who have been at this all along that period
> and more continue to point at these same few essential and unfulfilled
> things, where is the lack of memory?
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Carlos,
>
>     On 06/09/2017 15:52, Carlos Vera wrote:
>>     The right instance for the agreement for being write from zero is
>>     necessary is the Chapters Advisory Council and The chair of the
>>     bottom up working group must take this challenge for the
>>     workgroup and for the Chapters Advisory Council itself so we can
>>     participate from the very beginning under the right methodology
>>     including building the principles of the agreement: not
>>     intervention, self regulation of chapters, real participation as
>>     a decision making instance, and much more. 
>
>     This think that was done already, starting in 2008.
>     See the call for activity:
>     https://elists.isoc.org/pipermail/chapter-delegates/2008-January/003372.html
>     <https://elists.isoc.org/pipermail/chapter-delegates/2008-January/003372.html>
>
>     And then the nature of the Internet is such that complete chunks
>     of history disappear at the flick of a switch. The WIKI for the
>     project is mostly vaporized but a few front pages exist:
>     In the archive.org <http://archive.org> wayback machine there are
>     many snapshots of the WIKI:
>     18 Nov 2009:
>     https://web.archive.org/web/20091118054552/http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project
>     <https://web.archive.org/web/20091118054552/http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project>
>     15 Dec 2012:
>     https://web.archive.org/web/20121215033255/http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project
>     <https://web.archive.org/web/20121215033255/http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project>
>
>     You can consult other instances of the WIKI's front page using the
>     wayback machine.
>
>     I am sorry you were not able to take part then, but a 9 year (!!!)
>     bottom-up process to reach where we are today is worth applauding.
>
>     Kindest regards,
>
>     Olivier
>
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