[Chapter-delegates] Comments and feedback on revised charter agreement

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Olivier,

were that so, the forgetting that would be unforgivable after nine years
would be of the substantive collaboration between all parties which has
been pointed at repeatedly. Carlos Vera, in particular, has brought up a
very important distinction in what happens when fellowships are granted in
coordination with the chapters and when they are not. The games that can
derive from that have already been pointed at. The new social compact we
need goes beyond the words of the Agreement and Charter and seems to have
managed to go around the ChAC as well. If people who have been at this all
along that period and more continue to point at these same few essential
and unfulfilled things, where is the lack of memory?

Alejandro Pisanty

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
wrote:

> Dear Carlos,
>
> On 06/09/2017 15:52, Carlos Vera wrote:
>
> The right instance for the agreement for being write from zero is
> necessary is the Chapters Advisory Council and The chair of the bottom up
> working group must take this challenge for the workgroup and for
> the Chapters Advisory Council itself so we can participate from the very
> beginning under the right methodology including building the principles of
> the agreement: not intervention, self regulation of chapters, real
> participation as a decision making instance, and much more.
>
>
> This think that was done already, starting in 2008.
> See the call for activity: https://elists.isoc.org/
> pipermail/chapter-delegates/2008-January/003372.html
>
> And then the nature of the Internet is such that complete chunks of
> history disappear at the flick of a switch. The WIKI for the project is
> mostly vaporized but a few front pages exist:
> In the archive.org wayback machine there are many snapshots of the WIKI:
> 18 Nov 2009: https://web.archive.org/web/20091118054552/http://wiki.
> chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project
> 15 Dec 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20121215033255/http://wiki.
> chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project
>
> You can consult other instances of the WIKI's front page using the wayback
> machine.
>
> I am sorry you were not able to take part then, but a 9 year (!!!)
> bottom-up process to reach where we are today is worth applauding.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
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