[ih] Gateway Issue: Certification (was Re: booting linux on a 4004)

[John Day]

No, never has on anything I know of. 

The only certification done on OSI was done by the DoD at some place in Arizona and it was a complete fiasco.

John

> On Oct 3, 2024, at 15:43, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 3:42 PM John Day via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org <mailto:internet-history at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>> Just out of curiosity, what other standards organizations do compliance testing?
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>> John
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>> > On Oct 3, 2024, at 13:54, Dave Crocker via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org <mailto:internet-history at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
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>> > On 10/3/2024 10:43 AM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history wrote:
>> >> It's curious to me that such mechanisms have not been created for the Internet Industry.
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>> > Informal interoperability testing, versus formal compliance testing, was and remains a key distinction between the Internet's culture and the cultures of various other standards organization. Compliance testing is typically expensive and incomplete.  (As a tool for initial code debugging, tests like that can be efficient; as a guarantee of field interoperability, not so much.)
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>> > There was a wonderful panel that Vint was on, circa 1990, along with a number of other folk, including a vigorous OSI proponent from Boeing.
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>> > Vint made his comments about experiences with the Internet's technology and specifically noted the reliance on interoperability testing rather than (bench) compliance testing.
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>> > Other panelists made various comments and then the Boeing person made theirs, vigorously asserting that it is not possible to get widespread interoperability without formal compliance testing.
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>> > It was fun to watch Vint slowly lean slightly forward and then slowly turn his head toward the Boeing person.
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>> > d/
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