[ih] Gateway Issue: Certification (was Re: booting linux on a 4004)

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Thu Oct 3 12:43:35 PDT 2024


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On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 3:42 PM John Day via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, what other standards organizations do compliance
> testing?
>
> John
>
> > On Oct 3, 2024, at 13:54, Dave Crocker via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/3/2024 10:43 AM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history wrote:
> >> It's curious to me that such mechanisms have not been created for the
> Internet Industry.
> >
> >
> > Informal interoperability testing, versus formal compliance testing, was
> and remains a key distinction between the Internet's culture and the
> cultures of various other standards organization. Compliance testing is
> typically expensive and incomplete.  (As a tool for initial code debugging,
> tests like that can be efficient; as a guarantee of field interoperability,
> not so much.)
> >
> > There was a wonderful panel that Vint was on, circa 1990, along with a
> number of other folk, including a vigorous OSI proponent from Boeing.
> >
> > Vint made his comments about experiences with the Internet's technology
> and specifically noted the reliance on interoperability testing rather than
> (bench) compliance testing.
> >
> > Other panelists made various comments and then the Boeing person made
> theirs, vigorously asserting that it is not possible to get widespread
> interoperability without formal compliance testing.
> >
> > It was fun to watch Vint slowly lean slightly forward and then slowly
> turn his head toward the Boeing person.
> >
> > d/
> >
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> > Dave Crocker
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> > bbiw.net
> > mast:@dcrocker at mastodon.social
> >
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