[ih] early competition and networking

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> On Apr 15, 2024, at 9:28 PM, Leonard Kleinrock via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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> Actually, OR was in full bloom following World War II in the late 50s and 60s. Optimization of network topology and network link capacity for computer networks was started by a number of us well before the 70s.

Indeed - the history goes back to at least WW1 supply chain logistics.

And it originated with some very familiar names - Blaise Pascal and Charles Babbage among them.

The BSTJ was full of OR papers and had a nice overview in 2000 in a 3-part series (sadly paywalled):

https://www.jstor.org/stable/223139

(Like many aspects of modern CS, there are origins often overlooked; I wish 1% of the papers analyzing web and social media links realized they were rediscovering sociology.)

Joe


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>> On Apr 15, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Greg Skinner via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>> On Apr 15, 2024, at 9:49 AM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>>> I only learned a tiny bit about OR by taking an undergraduate course long ago. The science has evolved quite a lot since then - e.g., https://catalog.mit.edu/interdisciplinary/graduate-programs/operations-research/
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>>> OR is used to make analytical decisions for goals such as optimizing transportation "networks". AFAIK, such analysis was never applied to our computer networks back in the 70s/80s or even now. Maybe that was a mistake.
>>> 
>>> There's not a single solution. There's many possible solutions. It's an engineering task (likely using OR) to design an appropriate solution for each situation.
>>> 
>>> Jack Haverty
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>> JJ Garcia-Luna Aceves who incorporated concepts from OR into EIGRP (RFC 7868). Some other SRI people did similar work. Googling [site:datatracker.ietf.org “operations research"] and [site:datatracker.ietf.org "combinatorial optimization”] turned up a few RFCs and drafts, including RFC 5614, co-authored by Richard Ogier, also from SRI.
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>> --gregbo
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