[ih] ARPANET pioneer Jack Haverty says the internet was never finished

[touch at strayalpha.com]

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Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
www.strayalpha.com

> On Mar 2, 2022, at 8:03 PM, John Levine via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> It appears that Noel Chiappa via Internet-history <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu> said:
>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:46 PM Jack Haverty wrote:
>> 
>>> One that I used in the talk was TOS, i.e., how should routers (and TCPs)
>>> treat datagrams differently depending on their TOS values.
>> 
>> I actually don't think that's that important any more (or multicast either).
>> TOS is only realy important in a network with resource limitations, or very
>> different service levels. We don't have those any more - those limitations
>> have just been engineered away.
> 
> That's not it, they came up against the impenetrable barrier of a
> business model. We understand how to price peering and transit of
> traffic where all packets are the same, but nobody has any idea how
> you do it where some packets are more valuable.
> 
> I never figured out why multicast failed.  

You answered this in your previous paragraph — nobody ever figured out how to bill for it.

I.e., how do you charge for a service that has distributed costs? Who pays and how to do you keep track? In comparison, source replication is easy - source pays to send each copy.

;-)

Joe