[ih] distributed network control: Usenet

[Jack Haverty]

It's the time frame.   My comment was about the period before EGP was 
created in 1982.   The IETF didn't exist yet.   I don't remember which 
if any of those networks existed before 1982.   But if they did, I think 
they had a single manager.

/Jack


On 7/20/21 4:45 PM, Tony Li wrote:
> No, all of the regionals and other networks were various independent organizations. There was no centralization, just the chaos of trying to keep things working through the informal network of operator’s personal connections. For this, the IETF and NANOG were indispensable.
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> Tony
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>> On Jul 20, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>> Weren't those all managed by the same organization or its contractor, in the early 80s before EGP?
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>> I remember that at one point BBN was the contractor managing CSNET (Dick Edmiston).   NSFNET started in mid-80s and IIRC was thoroughly dominated by Dave Mills' Fuzzballs.  Our experiences when Dave was experimenting with connecting his Fuzzies to the core Internet was a primary motivator for EGP, which made it possible for Fuzzies to connect and do their thing without impacting the core.   BBN had some managerial role in NSFNET too IIRC.
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>> After EGP, and probably more importantly BGP, the world of Internetworking changed.
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>> /Jack
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>> On 7/20/21 4:03 PM, Miles Fidelman via Internet-history wrote:
>>>> Jack Haverty wrote:
>>>>> What I was referencing was a non-technical design decision -- the notion
>>>>> that there shouldn't be any single person, corporation, or organization
>>>>> "managing the network".   The ARPANET, and IIRC all other networks of
>>>>> the day, were under a single organization's control.
>>> Really?  NASA SPAN, DOEnet, then CSnet, and then the Supercomputer Center Networks, and the NSFnet regionals & Backbone?
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