[ih] distributed network control: Usenet

[Brian E Carpenter]

On 21-Jul-21 11:39, Jack Haverty via Internet-history wrote:
> Weren't those all managed by the same organization or its contractor, in 
> the early 80s before EGP?

My perception from Europe in the second half of the 80s was that they
were all very much independent managerially. And even with one agency
(DOE) there was a lot of rivalry between ESNET and the HEPNET people.
The HEPNET people talked more to the SPAN people that to ESNET.
Dennis Jennings would be the person to ask about early NSFnet.

   Brian

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> I remember that at one point BBN was the contractor managing CSNET (Dick 
> Edmiston).   NSFNET started in mid-80s and IIRC was thoroughly dominated 
> by Dave Mills' Fuzzballs.  Our experiences when Dave was experimenting 
> with connecting his Fuzzies to the core Internet was a primary motivator 
> for EGP, which made it possible for Fuzzies to connect and do their 
> thing without impacting the core.   BBN had some managerial role in 
> NSFNET too IIRC.
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> After EGP, and probably more importantly BGP, the world of 
> Internetworking changed.
> 
> /Jack
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> On 7/20/21 4:03 PM, Miles Fidelman via Internet-history wrote:
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>>> Jack Haverty wrote:
>>>> What I was referencing was a non-technical design decision -- the 
>>>> notion
>>>> that there shouldn't be any single person, corporation, or organization
>>>> "managing the network".   The ARPANET, and IIRC all other networks of
>>>> the day, were under a single organization's control.
>> Really?  NASA SPAN, DOEnet, then CSnet, and then the Supercomputer 
>> Center Networks, and the NSFnet regionals & Backbone?
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