[ih] NCP and TCP implementations
Michael Greenwald
mbgreen at seas.upenn.edu
Tue Mar 10 15:30:06 PDT 2020
On 2020-03-10 14:41, John Day via Internet-history wrote:
> The only better error message I ever saw was from the TIPSERV. (To
> provide a bit more of a command line interface, TIPs could be
> configured to connect directly to TIPSERV on a BBN Tenex, which then
> provided the command interpreter.)
>
> The only error message it emitted was:
>
> won’t
>
> (not can’t, won’t) ;-)
Not so surprising given Telnet WILL/WONT DO/DONT
>
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 16:48, Dave Crocker via Internet-history
>> <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/10/2020 11:53 AM, Bernie Cosell via Internet-history wrote:
>>>> Am I right in inferring that the key driver behind the design
>>>> decision
>>>> was cost rather than elegance?
>>>
>>> no. cost wasn't the issue. in fact elegance was.
>>
>> My subjective view, at the time, was the the existence of a single
>> integrated device for terminal access was extremely helpful in growing
>> the user population of the early Arpanet. Juggling two devices -- IMP
>> and a separate host -- for sites needing access but not really having
>> a machine or operator cycles to spare, would have been a significant
>> barrier to entry.
>>
>> Small tidbit:
>>
>> As part of my job doing user support at the UCLA CS site, I got tasked
>> with helping Einar Stefferud get started using access. He didn't
>> access through our system but had other arrangements; I just had to
>> help.
>>
>> One day he calls me up and says that he can't send email. He was
>> using Tenex. I don't remember whether we were yet into the
>> RD/BananaRD/MSG world yet, but in any case, sending was done with
>> Sndmsg.
>>
>> So I ask him to describe the problem and he says he types the
>> destination address and the system responded with "Bad".
>>
>> I told him he needed to enter at-sign (@) twice. I felt quite proud
>> of realizing the TIP was intercepting the the at-sign. As I recall,
>> the TIP was the only system on the net that gave 'bad' as an error
>> message...
>>
>> d/
>>
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