[ih] Internet/Wireless Principle of Levelness

[the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via Internet-history]

andy, sorry for the confusion/ambiguity -- yours truly was NOT
referencing/taking about subscriber equipment (i.e. phones), but rather the
various infrastructure components such as base stations, switches and the
other assorted gizzards et al. that comprise cellular and other wireless
(data) networks.

geoff

On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 5:14 AM Andrew G. Malis <agmalis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not true, at least now in the US. You can buy an unlocked phone of
> your choice (as I did), and as long as it supports the required
> frequencies, you can just get a SIM from any of the US carriers for the
> phone. If you want to use a carrier's installment plan to pay for the
> phone, then they have the right to give it to you SIM-locked. Once it's
> been paid off, you can request the carrier to remove the SIM lock.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 5:53 PM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via
> Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> this interesting cuz The Big Wireless infrastructure vendors would (still
>> do?) blackmail/extort and hold their cellular carrier customers hostage to
>> using Only THEIR OWN Equipment under the threat that if any
>> not-of-their-own manufactured/provided/sold gear was "attached"/used/put
>> in
>> place of their own they would summarily VOID the maintenance and
>> warranty thereof...!
>>
>> as a result, in the evolution of wireless carriage: a number of co's that
>> had built a faster, better, cheaper (and more spectrally
>> beneficial/efficient!) "mouse traps" died on the vine.
>>
>> this one wonders how Louis Pouzin reacted to/when his PTT -- France
>> Telecom
>> --unleashed The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel on his country...
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 9:25 AM Alex McKenzie via Internet-history <
>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>> >  I think that for the "principle of levelness", as for so much else
>> about
>> > the Internet, credit belongs most strongly to Louis Pouzin.  For Louis,
>> the
>> > biggest fear of walled gardens was the strength of the European PTTs.  I
>> > remember many talks he gave stating that, if they were allowed, they
>> would
>> > allocate to themselves the right to all the intelligence in any network,
>> > rather than simply the carriage of bits.  Louis worked tirelessly for
>> > internet design that allowed multiple players.
>> > Cheers,Alex
>> >
>> >     On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 2:10:53 PM EST, Jack Haverty via
>> > Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >  I don't know whether Bob created that Internet Principle of Levelness
>> or
>> > if it came earlier, but he's the one who got me on board.  That led to
>> > EGP as a key new element of the Internet architecture as a first tool to
>> > enable multi-vendor implementation.
>> >
>> >    <snip>
>> >
>>
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