[ih] Internet or internet i

[Joe Touch]

FYI - this was an issue a long time ago, when a banking company claimed ownership of the word for their ATM (money, not cells) system. There was some deal with the ISOC, but I don’t recall the details.

I still use Internet to refer to the one that uses IANA-assigned addresses and ICANN-coordinated DNS. Everything else that uses IP protocols is - to me - an internet, and always will be.

I do understand that the associated press don’t understand the difference, but that IMO just makes them both ignorant and wrong, not right.

Joe

> On Mar 11, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Jack Haverty <jack at 3kitty.org> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps there are legal aspects involved?  The word "internet" is a noun, but "Internet" is a proper noun.   Is "Internet" trademarked, or copyrighted, or protected by such legal means -- somewhere in the world?
> 
> I suspect there are zillions of things like patent documents with "internet" and/or "Internet" in them, fodder for lawyers and courts to argue about for decades.
> 
> You wouldn't believe how many hours I spent as an expert witness/consultant just arguing about the definitions of "program" and "reprogram", what exactly the difference was, and how the definitions changed over time and contexts.
> 
> I wonder when we'll see facebooks as well as Facebook, and why not The Facebook?
> 
> /Jack
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/11/19 10:27 AM, Vint Cerf wrote:
>> I am in agreement with John D on this - also Associated Press has chosen to cease making the distinction.
>> i suppose only engineers who understand that the "private internet" need not be part of the public one
>> and still use the same protocols (and address space!) will be offended (I admit, I am one of them).
>> 
>> v
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:06 AM John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> But I think Noel’s distinction still holds with the public internet being “Internet” and all others or the concept in general being ‘internet’.
>>> 
>>> The problem is the New York Times has decided that ‘Internet’ is spelled ‘internet’.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2019, at 10:07, Scott Brim <scott.brim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Noel: all true, but it's over. It's not ours to call anymore. 
>>>> 
>>>> (The one I really can't get used to is "emails".)
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