<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">FYI - this was an issue a long time ago, when a banking company claimed ownership of the word for their ATM (money, not cells) system. There was some deal with the ISOC, but I don’t recall the details.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I still use Internet to refer to the one that uses IANA-assigned addresses and ICANN-coordinated DNS. Everything else that uses IP protocols is - to me - an internet, and always will be.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I do understand that the associated press don’t understand the difference, but that IMO just makes them both ignorant and wrong, not right.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Joe</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Mar 11, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Jack Haverty <<a href="mailto:jack@3kitty.org">jack@3kitty.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>Perhaps there are legal aspects involved? The word "internet" is
a noun, but "Internet" is a proper noun. Is "Internet"
trademarked, or copyrighted, or protected by such legal means --
somewhere in the world?</p>
<p>I suspect there are zillions of things like patent documents with
"internet" and/or "Internet" in them, fodder for lawyers and
courts to argue about for decades.</p>
<p>You wouldn't believe how many hours I spent as an expert
witness/consultant just arguing about the definitions of "program"
and "reprogram", what exactly the difference was, and how the
definitions changed over time and contexts.</p>
<p>I wonder when we'll see facebooks as well as Facebook, and why
not The Facebook?<br>
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<p>/Jack</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/11/19 10:27 AM, Vint Cerf wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I am in agreement with John D on this - also
Associated Press has chosen to cease making the distinction.<br>
i suppose only engineers who understand that the "private
internet" need not be part of the public one
<div>and still use the same protocols (and address space!) will
be offended (I admit, I am one of them).</div>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">But I think Noel’s
distinction still holds with the public internet being
“Internet” and all others or the concept in general being
‘internet’.
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<div>The problem is the New York Times has decided that
‘Internet’ is spelled ‘internet’.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Noel:
all true, but it's over. It's not ours to call
anymore. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">(The
one I really can't get used to is "emails".)</div>
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