[ih] Review: Yasha Levine's "Surveillance Valley"

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regarding innovation and airplanes I recommend reading

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Santos-Dumont

Nelson

> I'm sorry, but my immediate reaction is that by this logic, the airplane
> was not an innovation because, when the Wright brothers invented it, they
> created a device that, using modest horsepower, could move a single human
> being a short distance and since they already sold bicycles (which achieve
> similar goals), they hadn't innovated.  That said, thank you for the
> pointers -- I'll go do some reading and see if I'm converted to your point
> of view.
>
> Craig
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Richard Bennett <richard at bennett.com>
> wrote:
>
>> With the iPod, Apple sold people on carrying a highly portable computer
>> around with them everywhere they went. It had a screen, a UI, and an
>> earpiece and the ability to run a very limited set of programs. It also
>> had
>> a rudimentary networking capability, limited to short periods of
>> connection
>> via USB.
>>
>> iPod became iPhone with the addition of a microphone, a radio, and a
>> somewhat more capable operating system. With the expansion of iTunes to
>> include apps, you got the whole banana.
>>
>> The iPhone was therefore an incremental enhancement of two of Apple?s
>> existing products, a portable one and a network-based feeder system.
>> It?s
>> hard to see two dudes in a garage pulling something like this off.
>>
>> RB
>>
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc2 at dcrocker.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The research on innovation very clearly shows that significant, game
>> changing inventions almost always come from big companies. The myth of
>> two dudes in a garage ignores the fact that it takes big money to take
>> big risks.
>>
>> Apple succeeded with the iPhone while Handspring and Nokia failed in
>> large part because of the music infrastructure the company had built
>> around the iPod, another second or third mover that succeeded where more
>> ad hoc MP3 players had failed.
>>
>>
>>
>> This casts things as either or, which is in line with how the thread has
>> gone, but probably misses a basic distinction, namely basic innovation
>> from what I'll call scaling innovation.
>>
>> Creation of the basic capability versus delivering a version of the
>> capability that gains widespread success.  The latter is not a 'mere'.
>>
>> Being able to get the balance of features, costs, marketing and sales
>> choices just right is, obviously, not obvious.  But it is quite
>> different from what we often call 'technological breakthrough'.
>>
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