[ih] more bounce management, was update about bogus list unsubcribe requests

John Levine johnl at iecc.com
Sat Aug 27 13:41:12 PDT 2016

>In fact, the impact of DMARC on IETF email lists, and on IETF 
>communications, and the (slow) response of the community in responding, 
>might make a particularly interesting case study.  As might the more 
>general impact and response of the community to DMARC.

The IETF has been remarkably slow even to notice DMARC. Yahoo and AOL
turned on DMARC policies for their freemail acounts in April and May
2014, while it only seems to have become an issue in the IETF a couple
of months ago.

Other lists noticed in about 30 seconds.  I sure did, for all the
Yahoo and AOL users on the non-technical lists I host, which is why I
came up with a mostly-transparent name rewriting hack. The mailman
developers came up with some rather ugly ones: rejecting addresses
with DMARC policies, wrapping messages like one-message digests, and
the dread putting the list's address on the From: line.

I suppose this means there aren't a lot of AOL and Yahoo users on IETF
lists.  The DMARC problem became more apparently as corporate mail
systems started to apply DMARC policies.

Here's a wiki page that collects all of the anti-DMARC techniques I'm
aware of.  If you look at its history, you can see it was mostly
written in 2014 with a few twiddles this year.



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