[ih] [IP] OSI: The Internet That Wasn't

Scott Brim scott.brim at gmail.com
Wed Jul 31 01:16:32 PDT 2013


Exactly why I mentioned it.  TCP/IP won, but so did the OSI process.

On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, Dave Crocker wrote:

> On 7/31/2013 9:10 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
>
>>
>> Is this where we segue to talking about the state of the  IETF?
>>
>
>
> Well, umm...
>
> In the early 1980s, there was a hot debate going on between DOS and Unix.
>  I went and did other things for a few years; when I returned, I discovered
> that Unix had won and it was called DOS.  DOS continued to dominate the
> market but all of its new features were taken from Unix.
>
> Too often, the same template applies for the IETF.  That is, what I often
> see is that in many cases, OSI has won, and it is called IETF.
>
> Too often, work attempts the union of the feature lists, rather than the
> intersection, and therefore takes an overly long time to complete, produces
> massively complex specifications, and is not immediately useful.
>
> It is now not that unusual to hear -- such as yesterday morning -- someone
> (whose experience ought to have taught them better) that it is essential to
> do everything all at once, for example to make sure that all of the pieces
> work together.   This is in marked contrast with essentially all of the
> major IETF successes over the last 25+ years.
>
> Aren't you glad you asked?
>
> d/
>
> --
> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
> bbiw.net
>
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