[ih] The UCLA 360/91 on the ARPAnet/Internet

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Sun May 13 03:10:47 PDT 2012


it was international and it did include louis pouzin. However, the
TCP/IP development was undertaken first by bob kahn and me (and we
briefed INWG in Sept 1973 at University of Sussex), then by my group
at Stanford University during 1974 (including yogen dalal, carl
sunshine, dick karp, judy estrin, jim mathis, darryl rubin and seminar
attendees john shoch and occasionally bob metcalfe. Gerard LeLann came
from Louis Pouzin's group for a year; Dag Belsnes from Univ of Oslo,
Kuninobu Tanno from Japan, Paal Spilling from NDRE; I am sure I have
left out a few others); and then Ray Tomlinson and Bill Plummer at BBN
as well as Peter Kirstein and his group at UCL (there is a long list
here but I can't reproduce it from memory) in 1975. In 1976 we start
seeing more implementations and tests - the big one in Nov 1977 with
all three networks. We generated Internet Experiment Notes. I don't
think we had a name for the group of implementors sponsored by ARPA.
By 1979 we are well on the way to standardizing version 4 including
the split. By 1980 or so, BBN and Berkeley are working the Unix
version; ultimately BSD 4.2 is released with TCP/IP by Bill Joy (among
others). I don't recall exactly when you did the IBM 360/91 and 360/75
versions but it must have been 1976 or later? Dave Clark did his IBM
PC version probably around 1980? Jim Mathis did a version for the DEC
LSI-11/23 that we used for the packet radio testing in the 1976-1980
period. Bob Kahn urged me to create the ICCB, which I did in 1979 with
Dave Clark as chair. After I left ARPA, Barry Leiner assumed
responsibility for further Internet development and created the
Internet Activities Board again with Dave Clark in the chairman's
post.

As for the group that did the original tcp/ip design, implementation
and testing, I think the principals were on the ICCB  - so that
included Bob Braden, steve kent (security - BCR project w/NSA and
DCEC), Dave Clark, Dan Lynch, Jon Postel, Jack Haverty, Dave Mills,
who else? Danny Cohen and David Reed were proponents of splitting off
IP but I don't think they were on the ICCB (boy, memory is hazy). I
don't remember whether Ed Cain was on the ICCB but he was the active
technical proponent of TCP/IP at the Defense Communications
Engineering Center in Reston and was involved in the testing of the
BCR packet Encryptors. Ray McFarland was the primary contact at NSA
for BCR and for the Internet protocol development starting around
1975, if memory serves.

regarding the term "Internet" it was applied to RFC 675, December
1974, the first full TCP spec that had three authors: vint cerf, yogen
dalal and carl sunshine.

i am copying the history list hoping they will add to this summary
and, in particular, pick up names I've missed.

vint


On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Robert Braden <braden at isi.edu> wrote:
> Vint,
>
> I had the idea that INWG was international and included eg Louis Pouzin.
>
> There was a group of ARPA contractors and a few others ( e.g. , ??? from
> DCEC) , which I think you formed and which you certainly led,
> that worked out the TCP/IP protocol specs. You subdivided it into the TCP
> sub-group (to which you assigned me) and the IP sub group. From this
> group came 5 (or 6?) prototype implementations of the developing TCP
> spec. What was this group called? I don't think we had settled on the
> term "Internet" yet; I recall an ICCB meeting where that issue
> as settled.
>
> I have never read any recognition of this group, nor seen its membership
> recognized.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/12/2012 12:45 PM, Vint Cerf wrote:
>>
>> i think we settled on "international network working group" (INWG) in
>> October 1972 but IEN 48 was titled "The Catenet Model" as I recall -
>> and credit was given to Louis Pouzin and his group for inventing that
>> term.
>>
>> v
>>
>



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