[ih] FTP Design

[Dave Walden]

Already by RFC 137 there was the idea of the Network Virtual Terminal.

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:43 PM, John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:

> That clears that up.
>
> And as Bob suggested, did it hit you all at once?  I wouldn't be surprised
> these things often do.
>
> Did you also come up with the NVT?
>
> Could you expound on it a bit more?
>
> This is a stroke of brilliance.  It would be nice to know how it came
> about.  It deserves to be better known.
>
> I still teach Telnet even though it is no longer in the textbooks.  I tell
> the students that I do it not because they need to know how Telnet works.
>  But it is an elegant solution to a problem that no one else saw. and they
> may find an analogous situation someday.  And because too many "brilliant"
> CS professors and textbook authors these days refer to it as a remote login
> protocol, when it was no such thing.  I want the students to know that
> while the current crop of professors may not have much imagination, others
> did.
>
> John
>
> At 18:49 -0400 2012/06/30, Bernie Cosell wrote:
>
>> On 30 Jun 2012 at 18:10, John Day wrote:
>>
>>   Who came up with the symmetrical Telnet design?  I remember Alex
>>>  wrote it up after the meeting (or at least Grossman told me Alex was
>>>  writing it up), but when I "blamed" him for it ;-), he wouldn't take
>>>  the credit.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I probably mostly did that.  I did the will/wont/do/dont stuff on
>> the airplane as Walden and I were flying out to some meeting [at UCLA, I
>> think] where we addressed telnet.
>>
>> It was clear from my work with the TIP [I was the TIP czar at the time]
>> that the asymmetry in the protocol was just not right.  What I was
>> thinking about was host<->host connections where there was really no
>> point in having one end be the 'server' and the other be the 'client'.
>>
>>   /Bernie\
>>
>> --
>> Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
>> mailto:bernie at fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
>>     -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--
>>
>
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