[ih] FTP Design

[John Day]

That clears that up.

And as Bob suggested, did it hit you all at once?  I wouldn't be 
surprised these things often do.

Did you also come up with the NVT?

Could you expound on it a bit more?

This is a stroke of brilliance.  It would be nice to know how it came 
about.  It deserves to be better known.

I still teach Telnet even though it is no longer in the textbooks.  I 
tell the students that I do it not because they need to know how 
Telnet works.  But it is an elegant solution to a problem that no one 
else saw. and they may find an analogous situation someday.  And 
because too many "brilliant" CS professors and textbook authors these 
days refer to it as a remote login protocol, when it was no such 
thing.  I want the students to know that while the current crop of 
professors may not have much imagination, others did.

John

At 18:49 -0400 2012/06/30, Bernie Cosell wrote:
>On 30 Jun 2012 at 18:10, John Day wrote:
>
>>  Who came up with the symmetrical Telnet design?  I remember Alex
>>  wrote it up after the meeting (or at least Grossman told me Alex was
>>  writing it up), but when I "blamed" him for it ;-), he wouldn't take
>>  the credit.
>
>Well, I probably mostly did that.  I did the will/wont/do/dont stuff on
>the airplane as Walden and I were flying out to some meeting [at UCLA, I
>think] where we addressed telnet.
>
>It was clear from my work with the TIP [I was the TIP czar at the time]
>that the asymmetry in the protocol was just not right.  What I was
>thinking about was host<->host connections where there was really no
>point in having one end be the 'server' and the other be the 'client'.
>
>   /Bernie\
>
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