[ih] NIC, InterNIC, and Modelling Administration

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Fri Feb 18 08:06:04 PST 2011


holy cow - i have no idea after all this time. I am not even sure I have
copies...

v


On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:54 AM, John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:

>  You are undoubtedly correct.  After all, you are the lead author of it.
>
> BTW, could you tell me the difference between INWG 96 and INWG 96.1?
>
> At 10:15 -0500 2011/02/18, Vint Cerf wrote:
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> john,
>
>
> I thought INWG 96 was a compromise that was not identical to, though it
> drew heavily upon, the Cyclades TS protocol?
>
>
> v
>
>
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>  On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:
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> At 8:35 -0500 2011/02/18, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> John Day wrote:
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> At 7:14 -0500 2011/02/18, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> You've said that before.  Can you elaborate with some examples of where ISO
> has simply codified existing practice?
>
>  Screw threads, highway signs, paper size, HDLC, Transport Layer, Session
> Layer, Network Layer
>
> I was all set to buy "screw threads" - until I read the Wikipedia article
> on
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread#History_of_standardization
>
> Re. Transport, Session, Network layer: how can you say that with a straight
> face, after all the recent discussion here?  (I don't see an ISO number
> stamped on TCP/IP.)
>
>
> I figured you would take the bait.  ;-)
>
> TP4 was INWG 96 which was CYCLADES TS which had been operational since
> 1972.
>
> Network:  X.25 was an ISO standard that had been in use since 1976.
>
> Session:  Was lifted (for better or worse, mostly worse) from SGVIII
> Videotex standards that were built and operating in France.
>
> No there is no ISO number stamped on TCP.  That decision was worked out in
> an open process in IFIP WG6.1 prior to start of OSI, which chose a modified
> CYCLADES TS.
>
> As long as we are on the topic, all of the IEEE 802 standards are also ISO
> standards.  Ethernet was in use for close to 10 years before it was an ISO
> standard.
>
>
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