[ih] NIC, InterNIC, and Modelling Administration

John Day jeanjour at comcast.net
Fri Feb 18 07:54:16 PST 2011


You are undoubtedly correct.  After all, you are the lead author of it.

BTW, could you tell me the difference between INWG 96 and INWG 96.1?

At 10:15 -0500 2011/02/18, Vint Cerf wrote:
>john,
>
>I thought INWG 96 was a compromise that was not identical to, though 
>it drew heavily upon, the Cyclades TS protocol?
>
>v
>
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>On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Day 
><<mailto:jeanjour at comcast.net>jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:
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>At 8:35 -0500 2011/02/18, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
>John Day wrote:
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>At 7:14 -0500 2011/02/18, Miles Fidelman wrote:
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>You've said that before.  Can you elaborate with some examples of 
>where ISO has simply codified existing practice?
>
>Screw threads, highway signs, paper size, HDLC, Transport Layer, 
>Session Layer, Network Layer
>
>I was all set to buy "screw threads" - until I read the Wikipedia article on
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread#History_of_standardization>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread#History_of_standardization
>
>Re. Transport, Session, Network layer: how can you say that with a 
>straight face, after all the recent discussion here?  (I don't see 
>an ISO number stamped on TCP/IP.)
>
>
>I figured you would take the bait.  ;-)
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>TP4 was INWG 96 which was CYCLADES TS which had been operational since 1972.
>
>Network:  X.25 was an ISO standard that had been in use since 1976.
>
>Session:  Was lifted (for better or worse, mostly worse) from SGVIII 
>Videotex standards that were built and operating in France.
>
>No there is no ISO number stamped on TCP.  That decision was worked 
>out in an open process in IFIP WG6.1 prior to start of OSI, which 
>chose a modified CYCLADES TS.
>
>As long as we are on the topic, all of the IEEE 802 standards are 
>also ISO standards.  Ethernet was in use for close to 10 years 
>before it was an ISO standard.
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