[ih] Origination date for the Internet

[Guy Almes]

Richard,
   Right.
   The original CIX was in 1991 and, interestingly, done as a router 
rather than a switch.  And with a T1 circuit coming from each 
participant.  I always wondered how PSI, UUnet, and CERFnet agreed on 
routing policies.
	-- Guy

On 10/28/10 7:37 PM, Richard Bennett wrote:
> 3Com was founded way back in '79, but it took Ron Crane a while to
> figure out the black brick; I think their Multibus adapter was about
> '81. The first single-chip Ethernet controller, the SEEQ 8001, didn't go
> into production until '83.
>
> BTW, as far as I can tell, the first CIX was a Cisco 7500 that connected
> PSI, UUNET, and Cerfnet somewhere around McLean, VA in 1991. It was
> moved to Palo Alto shortly afterward.
>
> PAIX came long in 1996 as a carrier-neutral NAP alternative.
>
> RB
>
> On 10/28/2010 3:25 PM, Vint Cerf wrote:
>> beats me - 3COM was in operation by then and Berkeley BSD 4.x had also
>> been released, right?
>>
>> v
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Guy Almes<galmes at tamu.edu> wrote:
>>> Vint et al.,
>>> I wonder about how many (mostly departmental) LANs were running
>>> TCP/IP and
>>> connected to the ARPAnet by 1-Jan-83?
>>>
>>> -- Guy
>>>
>>> On 10/28/10 4:44 PM, Vint Cerf wrote:
>>>> actually ISI tracked TCP/IP capability during 1982; the primary
>>>> regular use was from Europe, especially the UK, prior to january 1983;
>>>> by then there LANS connecting to the ARPANET by way of gateways
>>>> (Proteon was around with its rings - Noel Chiappa is that correct?).
>>>> Then came Cisco but i guess after 1984.
>>>>
>>>> Of course during 1982 many ARPANET sites came up on TCP/IP in parallel
>>>> with NCP.
>>>>
>>>> v
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Miles Fidelman
>>>> <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net> wrote:
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Hinden wrote:
>>>>>> I still have my "I Survived the TCP Transition 1/1/83" red button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my view this was the time when the Internet became operational as
>>>>>> people starting using it for their day to day work, instead of a
>>>>>> set of
>>>>>> researchers. Conception and birth occurred earlier :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, that raises another interesting question: At what point,
>>>>> prior
>>>>> to
>>>>> 1/1/83, if any, was there a minimal set of networks, gateways, and end
>>>>> systems that were passing IP packets on an ongoing basis - as
>>>>> opposed to
>>>>> being cobbled together to run some experiment or other, and then
>>>>> brought
>>>>> back down? Can we isolate a date when IP packets started flowing and
>>>>> never
>>>>> stopped?
>>>>>
>>>>> Miles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
>>>>> In<fnord> practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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