[Chapter-delegates] Fwd: [Internet Policy] Fwd: Calling for ISOC to not associate with the nomination process for IGF Leadership Panel

Fri Dec 3 03:57:14 PST 2021

Dear Andrew,

Regarding the exchange of messages below, I think that it is perfectly appropriate, and not impolite or rude, for a chapter delegate to post to this list something of interest that was posted on another list that is accessible to anybody who wishes to subscribe to it. Which is what Veni did.

And I think that your message below, which might be understood to imply that what Veni did was impolite, is not appropriate, because it could have a chilling effect and discourage others from posting their thoughts to this list.

Furthermore, you had previously posted this, in response to Veni’s posting my comments on your message to the Internet Policy list: “I deliberately didn't send my message to this list, and Veni didn't ask me before forwarding it, so you will get the last word on this.”  

That might leave the impression that you had commented, on the Internet Policy list, on my comments.

However, unless I am mistaken, that I is not the case: you did not comment on my comments, which is fine, I was not necessarily expecting a reply. 

Best,

Richard

>On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 14:38:36 PST 2021, Andrew Sullivan wrote:

>Hi,

> 

>>On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 05:17:23PM -0500, Veni Markovski wrote:

>>That means we are both right. Weird contradictory points, but the legal

>>notice should have priority, so perhaps the legal folks should update the

>>page.

> 

>The legal message is there to protect us, and everyone on the lists, from legal action >related to violating this very item in the code of conduct.

> 

>The code of conduct is intended to establish what is _polite_ to do, not what is _legal_ to >do.  I don't believe there is a contradiction here at all: in most places, it turns out, being >rude is not against the law.

> 

>Best regards,

> 

>A

From: Chapter-delegates [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 23:17
To: Andrew Sullivan; chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Fwd: [Internet Policy] Fwd: Calling for ISOC to not associate with the nomination process for IGF Leadership Panel

That means we are both right. Weird contradictory points, but the legal notice should have priority, so perhaps the legal folks should update the page. 

That’s a good positive outcome of this short exchange of emails. 

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 16:30 Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 03:01:49PM -0500, Veni Markovski wrote:

>My reading of it is that the Legal Notice at that URL gives any member 
>of the Internet Policy list to forward messages from that list not 
>only to the chapter-delegates list, but to any other, even outside of 
>ISOC:

The third bullet at that URL says

        Don’t share the posts of others without permission.

Best regards,

A

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