[Chapter-delegates] Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter

Veni Markovski veni at veni.com
Tue Oct 22 22:54:28 PDT 2013


+1

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, Halbersztadt Jozef (jothal) wrote:

> ISOC should stop telling the world how many individual members it has.
> It is completely unimportant. It is enough to claim that associated
> chapters are active in 80-90 countries.
>
> JH
>
> --
> 'JotHal' jozef [dot] halbersztadt [at] gmail [dot] com
> Internet Society Poland http://www.isoc.org.pl
>
> 2013/10/23 CW Mail <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu <javascript:;>>:
> > +1 CW
> >
> >
> > On 22 Oct 2013, at 14:41, Julian Vincent <julian at isoc.my> wrote:
> >
> >> I had suggested in the past ie.  we revert back to before AMS ie
> >>
> >> 1. All chapters manage their own database
> >> 2. Chapters will then update AMS monthly/quarterly by uploading their
> members details
> >> 3. AMS is disabled to allow members to sign up directly but will point
> them to the approatiate chapter website to sign up
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Julian Vincent
> >> Chair
> >> Malaysia Chapter
> >> www.isoc.my
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>
> >> Sender: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> >> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:05:42
> >> To: Grigori Saghyan<gregor at arminco.com>; <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> >> Reply-To: veni at veni.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Renewal Internet Society Chapter
> Charter
> >>
> >> This is problematic, if you think about EU legislation, aiming exactly
> >> at hosting personal data on US servers...
> >>
> >> v.
> >>
> >> On 10/22/13 08:01, Grigori Saghyan wrote:
> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >>> Hash: SHA1
> >>>
> >>> Dear All,
> >>> May be  it is possible to bypass some of  legal problems  with AMS if
> >>> each Chapter will sign an agreement with ISOC HQ for outsourcing
> >>> database services for each Chapter.
> >>> Grigori Saghyan
> >>> ISOC.AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 22.10.2013 15:41, Borka Jerman Blazic wrote:
> >>>> I am confident too that the officers would like to help.
> >>>>
> >>>> First fix the technical issues. This must be easy (enable editing
> >>>> in AMS, enable automatic renewal, enable reminder messages ect.,
> >>>> make the AMS user friendly).  Make the funding of chapter  events
> >>>> appropriate regarding the locations and regarding  the specified
> >>>> Costs supported with relevant evidences (with some reasonable
> >>>> restrictions). Make the EU regional Bureau   work with the
> >>>> chapters, the week clippings are good but this is not what is
> >>>> expected.  Then we may continue to other more difficult issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Borka
> >>>>
> >>>> p.s. I am not very sure that all these costly HQ surveys among the
> >>>> membership provide sufficiently relevant information. So far no
> >>>> evidence  of their usefulness!
> >>>>
> >>>> Dne 22.10.2013 12:23, piše Veni Markovski:
> >>>>> If it was easy, we wouldn't be discussing it for so long, Carlos
> >>>>> :) But then, if it was easy, it won't be fun.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am confident that Joyce and Ted, together with Jacek, and
> >>>>> others at the HQ would figure out a safe exit (and certainly from
> >>>>> the reaction to John More's email I see that chapters are
> >>>>> positively looking towards helping the HQ.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> v.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/22/13 06:04, info at isoc.org.ec wrote:
> >>>>>> As I see we have a mix of issues from operational ones to
> >>>>>> sovereignty in different discussions in the list.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Very complicated situation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Carlos Vera
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Internet Society Ecuador <http://www.isoc.org.ec>



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