+1<span></span><br><br>On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, Halbersztadt Jozef (jothal) wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">ISOC should stop telling the world how many individual members it has.<br>
It is completely unimportant. It is enough to claim that associated<br>
chapters are active in 80-90 countries.<br>
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JH<br>
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'JotHal' jozef [dot] halbersztadt [at] gmail [dot] com<br>
Internet Society Poland <a href="http://www.isoc.org.pl" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org.pl</a><br>
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2013/10/23 CW Mail <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'mail@christopherwilkinson.eu')">mail@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>>:<br>
> +1 CW<br>
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> On 22 Oct 2013, at 14:41, Julian Vincent <julian@isoc.my> wrote:<br>
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>> I had suggested in the past ie. we revert back to before AMS ie<br>
>><br>
>> 1. All chapters manage their own database<br>
>> 2. Chapters will then update AMS monthly/quarterly by uploading their members details<br>
>> 3. AMS is disabled to allow members to sign up directly but will point them to the approatiate chapter website to sign up<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> Julian Vincent<br>
>> Chair<br>
>> Malaysia Chapter<br>
>> <a href="http://www.isoc.my" target="_blank">www.isoc.my</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry®<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Veni Markovski <<a>veni@veni.com</a>><br>
>> Sender: <a>chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:05:42<br>
>> To: Grigori Saghyan<<a>gregor@arminco.com</a>>; <<a>chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>
>> Reply-To: <a>veni@veni.com</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter<br>
>><br>
>> This is problematic, if you think about EU legislation, aiming exactly<br>
>> at hosting personal data on US servers...<br>
>><br>
>> v.<br>
>><br>
>> On 10/22/13 08:01, Grigori Saghyan wrote:<br>
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>>> Dear All,<br>
>>> May be it is possible to bypass some of legal problems with AMS if<br>
>>> each Chapter will sign an agreement with ISOC HQ for outsourcing<br>
>>> database services for each Chapter.<br>
>>> Grigori Saghyan<br>
>>> <a href="http://ISOC.AM" target="_blank">ISOC.AM</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 22.10.2013 15:41, Borka Jerman Blazic wrote:<br>
>>>> I am confident too that the officers would like to help.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> First fix the technical issues. This must be easy (enable editing<br>
>>>> in AMS, enable automatic renewal, enable reminder messages ect.,<br>
>>>> make the AMS user friendly). Make the funding of chapter events<br>
>>>> appropriate regarding the locations and regarding the specified<br>
>>>> Costs supported with relevant evidences (with some reasonable<br>
>>>> restrictions). Make the EU regional Bureau work with the<br>
>>>> chapters, the week clippings are good but this is not what is<br>
>>>> expected. Then we may continue to other more difficult issues.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Regards,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Borka<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> p.s. I am not very sure that all these costly HQ surveys among the<br>
>>>> membership provide sufficiently relevant information. So far no<br>
>>>> evidence of their usefulness!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dne 22.10.2013 12:23, piše Veni Markovski:<br>
>>>>> If it was easy, we wouldn't be discussing it for so long, Carlos<br>
>>>>> :) But then, if it was easy, it won't be fun.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I am confident that Joyce and Ted, together with Jacek, and<br>
>>>>> others at the HQ would figure out a safe exit (and certainly from<br>
>>>>> the reaction to John More's email I see that chapters are<br>
>>>>> positively looking towards helping the HQ.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> v.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 10/22/13 06:04, <a>info@isoc.org.ec</a> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> As I see we have a mix of issues from operational ones to<br>
>>>>>> sovereignty in different discussions in the list.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Very complicated situation<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Carlos Vera<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Internet Society Ecuador <a href="http://www.isoc.org.ec" target="_blank"></a></blockquote><br><br>-- <br>Best,<br>Veni<br><a href="http://veni.com">http://veni.com</a><br><a href="https://facebook.com/venimarkovski">https://facebook.com/venimarkovski</a><br>
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