[Chapter-delegates] Chapter Advisory Council - creation of an Interim Steering Committee

Tue Oct 15 07:49:54 PDT 2013

Hi,

to agree with Chrisitian even more deeply: the Chapter Advisory Council must be designed in such a way that it is not a very desirable job, carrying much more responsibilities (like constant bottom-up consultation, drafting of texts, bringing to the community tons of well-understood information, etc.) and an obligation of service to the community.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Enviado el: martes, 15 de octubre de 2013 05:59
Hasta: John More
CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Chapter Advisory Council - creation of an Interim Steering Committee

+1 John

Nicely put.

Charles

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM, John More <morej1 at mac.com<mailto:morej1 at mac.com>> wrote:
Agreed.  Determining the role and scope lf the Council within the structure of the Internet Society (obviously also including a discussion and understanding of the role of the Chapters) is a pre-condition to designing the structure of the Council.

John

On Oct 15, 2013, at 5:28 AM, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net<mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>> wrote:

> Yes... Important to note that.
>
> The term is "Advisory" not political nor hierarchical, nor
> representational nor any of the myriad ratholes such an activity can be
> pushed down.
>
> Can this be structured as a "meeting" of chapters to develop and discuss
> priorities and advise the ISOC board and possibly chapters as a whole?
>
> I wonder. Experience shows a strong preconception in this generation to
> develop structure, elections, board, officers, business cards, status,
> entitlement, then representational assumptions ....
>
>
>
> Christian
>
> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> glad to know you are interested as well.
>>
>> You may have missed this from a message of mine on October 1:
>>
>> "The *one* true innovation in the landscape is the possibility in the
>> Bylaws to create a Chapter Advisory Council.
>>
>> Previous attempts have failed and I am among those who have had serious
>> doubts about the concept. We should test it now. We know afresh much of
>> what the Council should be able to do and what is out of its scope.
>> Let's get on to it. I'm in if I can be considered useful."
>>
>> I think that before any of us puts his/her names up for roles we need to
>> start doing some actual work. What in the present landscape can a
>> Chapter Advisory Council do that improves the situation, what could
>> actually go wrong with it?
>>
>> IMO a Chapter Advisory Council can bridge many gaps and make sure there
>> is a persistent and consistent voice from the chapters. It must not try
>> to take over from the chapters, however, nor become one more
>> self-propelled power center or attempt to become one. IMO that is what
>> killed a well-known previous regional model.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>>
>>
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>>     Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>> Facultad de Química UNAM
>> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>>
>>
>>
>> +52-1-5541444475<tel:%2B52-1-5541444475> FROM ABROAD
>>
>> +525541444475<tel:%2B525541444475> DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475<tel:%2B525541444475>
>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>> Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
>> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
>> .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
>>
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>> [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org<mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>] en nombre de CW Mail
>> [mail at christopherwilkinson.eu<mailto:mail at christopherwilkinson.eu>]
>> *Enviado el:* domingo, 13 de octubre de 2013 15:53
>> *Hasta:* ISOC Chapter Delegates
>> *Asunto:* [Chapter-delegates] Chapter Advisory Council - creation of an
>> Interim Steering Committee
>>
>>
>> Good Evening:
>>
>> /> The ISOC Board of Trustees … acknowledged the right of Chapters to
>> form an advisory group/
>>
>> Further to the Note to Chapters that we have all received from Walda
>> Roseman, I suggest that it is now down to the Chapters ourselves to
>> initiate the organisation of at the Chapters Advisory Council.
>>
>> To this effect, I would be prepared to take on the röle of Convenor of
>> an Interim Steering Committee for the creation of the Chapters Advisory
>> Council. If that would be acceptable, I would be glad to see expressions
>> of interest to participate in the Steering Group posted to the Chapters
>> Delegates List. In the first instance, the Steering Group should
>> comprise at least one recognised member from each of the principal
>> geographical regions. The initial objective might be to work towards a
>> first plenary meeting of the Council in mid-2014, for instance in London.
>>
>> With best regards to you all,
>>
>> Christopher Wilkinson
>>
>> PS:For those of you who do not know me, I initiated the discussion about
>> Chapter membership of ISOC in 2010 (and have had a stake in that since
>> then).
>> I am reasonably multilingual EN/FR/ES; and at 72 I have no interest in a
>> longer-term commitment.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01 Oct 2013, at 21:21, Walda Roseman <roseman at isoc.org<mailto:roseman at isoc.org>
>> <mailto:roseman at isoc.org<mailto:roseman at isoc.org>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>
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