[Chapter-delegates] Resend of August 30 Request for Review and Comment on current proposed revisions to the By-laws

Sat Oct 27 12:16:31 PDT 2012

+1 (Bolivia)

Eduardo Rojas

ISOC Bolivia

De: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de Eric Burger
Enviado el: lunes, 22 de octubre de 2012 12:11
Para: ISOC Chapter Delegates
CC: Miloshevic Desiree; Avri Doria
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Resend of August 30 Request for Review and
Comment on current proposed revisions to the By-laws

To be very clear: the Advisory Council of Organizations do not have
representatives "making decisions on the structure ofthe bylaws." They are
not "collecting feedback" if you mean that to mean collecting feedback in
general. Specifically, they are providing feedback from Organization
members. As I pointed out in my report, we have had 19 comments (some
duplicative or +1's) from Chapter leaders since we put out a final call for
comments. If I did not say it before, thank you all for getting your
comments in writing and on time to the Bylaws Committee! 

The final call for comments produced zero comments on the AC list, zero
comments on the bylaws list, and zero comments communicated to the Board by
Organization Members. The hope is we can extract some useful feedback.

If anything, this highlights how much better Chapters are at communicating
with ISOC in general and the Board in particular than Organizations. Through
both your active participation and the active work of staff, the needs and
desires of Chapters are well-known and well-articulated. That is not so for
Organizations. Organizations do not have the structural relationship that
Chapters do with the Society, nor do they have the staff and regional
support that Chapters do.

By the same token, we do listen. You should see a message shortly from Ted
requesting direct participation from the Chapter community to the Bylaws
Committee. Settling expectations: like the people participating from the
Organization community, these individuals will neither make decisions on the
bylaws nor be voting on changes. They will be helping with feedback as well
as giving advice from their own Chapter experience to the Bylaws Committee.

On Oct 22, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:

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-----Original Message-----
From: JOHN MORE <morej1 at mac.com>
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:19:36 
To: <President at isoc-au.org.au>
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Christopher Wilkinson<cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>;
ecc-council at isoc-ecc.org<ecc-council at isoc-ecc.org>; Avri
Doria<avri at psg.com>; DÃ©sirÃ©e Â®eljka MiloÂ¹eviÃ¦<dmiloshevic at afilias.info>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Resend of August 30 Request for Review and
Comment on current proposed revisions to the By-laws

I would suggest that there is a difference between having two
representatives of the Chapters on the Committee making decisions on the
structure ofthe bylaws and collecting feedback.

John More
Washington DC Chapter

On Oct 22, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Narelle Clark <President at isoc-au.org.au> wrote:

Veni said:

It sounds strange that the org members need Addiitional people, and the

chapters don't get any. Yet the org members have already 6 trustees,

right?

The intention of this is to collect feedback at all - in contrast to the

chapters, who have posted extensively, on and off lists, and given plenty

of feedback.

Regards

Narelle

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Narelle Clark

President

Internet Society of Australia

president at isoc-au.org.au

www.isoc-au.org.au

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