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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+1 (Bolivia)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Eduardo Rojas<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ISOC Bolivia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org] <b>En nombre de </b>Eric Burger<br><b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 22 de octubre de 2012 12:11<br><b>Para:</b> ISOC Chapter Delegates<br><b>CC:</b> Miloshevic Desiree; Avri Doria<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Resend of August 30 Request for Review and Comment on current proposed revisions to the By-laws<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>To be very clear: the Advisory Council of Organizations do <b>not</b> have representatives "making decisions on the structure ofthe bylaws." They are not "collecting feedback" if you mean that to mean collecting feedback in general. Specifically, they are <b>providing</b> feedback from Organization members. As I pointed out in my report, we have had 19 comments (some duplicative or +1's) from Chapter leaders since we put out a final call for comments. If I did not say it before, <i>thank you all for getting your comments in writing and on time to the Bylaws Committee!</i> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The final call for comments produced zero comments on the AC list, zero comments on the bylaws list, and zero comments communicated to the Board by Organization Members. The hope is we can extract some useful feedback.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If anything, this highlights how much better Chapters are at communicating with ISOC in general and the Board in particular than Organizations. Through both your active participation and the active work of staff, the needs and desires of Chapters are well-known and well-articulated. That is not so for Organizations. Organizations do not have the structural relationship that Chapters do with the Society, nor do they have the staff and regional support that Chapters do.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>By the same token, we do listen. You should see a message shortly from Ted requesting direct participation from the Chapter community to the Bylaws Committee. Settling expectations: like the people participating from the Organization community, these individuals will <b>neither</b> make decisions on the bylaws <b>nor</b> be voting on changes. They <b>will</b> be helping with feedback as well as giving advice from their own Chapter experience to the Bylaws Committee.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 22, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>+1<br><br>Alejandro Pisanty<br>Enviado desde/Sent from BlackBerry® <br><br>! !! !!! !!!!<br>NEW PHONE NUMBER - NUEVO NUMERO DE TELEFONO<br>+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD<br>+525541444475 DESDE MEXICO<br>SMS +525541444475<br> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br>Blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/apisanty">http://twitter.com/apisanty</a><br>---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: JOHN MORE <<a href="mailto:morej1@mac.com">morej1@mac.com</a>><br>Sender: <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:19:36 <br>To: <<a href="mailto:President@isoc-au.org.au">President@isoc-au.org.au</a>><br>Cc: chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>; Christopher Wilkinson<<a href="mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu">cw@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>>; ecc-council@isoc-ecc.org<<a href="mailto:ecc-council@isoc-ecc.org">ecc-council@isoc-ecc.org</a>>; Avri Doria<<a href="mailto:avri@psg.com">avri@psg.com</a>>; Désirée ®eljka Milo¹eviæ<<a href="mailto:dmiloshevic@afilias.info">dmiloshevic@afilias.info</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Resend of August 30 Request for Review and<br>Comment on current proposed revisions to the By-laws<br><br>I would suggest that there is a difference between having two representatives of the Chapters on the Committee making decisions on the structure ofthe bylaws and collecting feedback.<br><br>John More<br>Washington DC Chapter<br><br><br>On Oct 22, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Narelle Clark <<a href="mailto:President@isoc-au.org.au">President@isoc-au.org.au</a>> wrote:<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Veni said:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>It sounds strange that the org members need Addiitional people, and the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>chapters don't get any. Yet the org members have already 6 trustees,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>right?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>The intention of this is to collect feedback at all - in contrast to the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>chapters, who have posted extensively, on and off lists, and given plenty<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>of feedback.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Narelle<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Narelle Clark<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>President<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Internet Society of Australia<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:president@isoc-au.org.au">president@isoc-au.org.au</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.isoc-au.org.au">www.isoc-au.org.au</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<br>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<br>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>