[ih] Comments re the packet radio discussion

[the keyboard of geoff goodfellow]

btw, there also was/is the world's last preserved municipal pneumatic post
system in Prague Czech called the *Pražská potrubní pošta* that commenced
operation in 1889 for which the network extended some 60 kilometres (37
mi). [1] sadly it was rendered inoperative by the August 2002 European
floods (which also concurrently wiped out yours truly's basement alcohol/
beat.net dj cigar bar with some 6 feet of water, but luckily it was able to
be rebuilt and then later sold to the Russian mafia... :) [2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_pneumatic_post
[2]
https://web.archive.org/web/20031011215044fw_/http://www.alcoholbar.cz/index.htm

g

On Fri, May 1, 2026 at 12:41 AM Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> One must not forget the 'pneu' in Paris (1866-1984).
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_pneumatic_post
>
> (If you wonder how to pronounce 'pneu' there's a video
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbpWA3ChSSs)
>
> Regards/Ngā mihi
>     Brian
>
> On 01-May-26 19:02, Nigel Roberts via Internet-history wrote:
> > In (some parts of? London there were (I think) up to four deliveries per
> > day.
> >
> > As a  very small child in the 1960s I (very vaguely) remember there
> > being a morning and an afternoon post in our village in the N. of
> England.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/30/26 22:16, Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history wrote:
> >> On 27-Apr-26 14:13, Bob Purvy via Internet-history wrote:
> >>> I once heard that in Victorian England, at least some parts of it, the
> >>> post
> >>> was delivered four times a day.
> >>
> >> That was certainly the case within London, but it wouldn't work
> intercity.
> >> (The Penny Post was introduced in 1840.)
> >>
> >> There are surviving letters between Babbage and Lovelace, for example,
> that
> >> indicate quite rapid interaction. But they were rich people who could
> >> likely
> >> order a servant to deliver a letter on demand.
> >>
> >> I seem to remember that some Sherlock Holmes stories indicate very rapid
> >> postal deliveries within London.
> >>
> >>       Brian
> >>
> >>> Thus you *could* carry on a lengthy debate
> >>> with someone that only took a few days. Does anyone have a link to data
> >>> like that?
> >>>
> >>> I was also wondering what the average time was to get a Reply to a
> >>> question
> >>> under that system. Nowadays it *might *be only seconds sometimes, but
> >>> for a
> >>> lot of people the average email response time is still measured in
> days.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 12:46 AM Yannis KOROVESIS/COROVESIS via
> >>> Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Going further back than the Victorians wikipedia has the following
> about
> >>>> "fryktoria" (translated from the Greek original ) as you suspect:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://el-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/
> >>>> %CE%A6%CF%81%CF%85%CE%BA%CF%84%CF%89%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1?
> >>>> _x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=el&_x_tr_pto=wapp
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    Yannis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    On Apr 22, 2026, at 5:14 PM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
> >>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    I recently visited Tom Standage’s blog post about The Victorian
> >>>> Internet <
> >>>> https://tomstandage.wordpress.com/books/the-victorian-internet/> and
> >>>> noticed that he mentioned that Andrew Odlyzko <
> >>>> https://www-users.cse.umn.edu/~odlyzko/> had read it.  Odlyzko’s name
> >>>> also came up in some literature about the origins of Tier 1 ISPs.  He
> >>>> used
> >>>> to post here occasionally.  You might find some of the Internet system
> >>>> level analysis you’re looking for in his papers.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    --gregbo
> >>>>
> >>>>
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