[ih] Comments re the packet radio discussion

Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com
Fri May 1 00:40:51 PDT 2026


One must not forget the 'pneu' in Paris (1866-1984).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_pneumatic_post

(If you wonder how to pronounce 'pneu' there's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbpWA3ChSSs)

Regards/Ngā mihi
    Brian

On 01-May-26 19:02, Nigel Roberts via Internet-history wrote:
> In (some parts of? London there were (I think) up to four deliveries per
> day.
> 
> As a  very small child in the 1960s I (very vaguely) remember there
> being a morning and an afternoon post in our village in the N. of England.
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/30/26 22:16, Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history wrote:
>> On 27-Apr-26 14:13, Bob Purvy via Internet-history wrote:
>>> I once heard that in Victorian England, at least some parts of it, the
>>> post
>>> was delivered four times a day.
>>
>> That was certainly the case within London, but it wouldn't work intercity.
>> (The Penny Post was introduced in 1840.)
>>
>> There are surviving letters between Babbage and Lovelace, for example, that
>> indicate quite rapid interaction. But they were rich people who could
>> likely
>> order a servant to deliver a letter on demand.
>>
>> I seem to remember that some Sherlock Holmes stories indicate very rapid
>> postal deliveries within London.
>>
>>       Brian
>>
>>> Thus you *could* carry on a lengthy debate
>>> with someone that only took a few days. Does anyone have a link to data
>>> like that?
>>>
>>> I was also wondering what the average time was to get a Reply to a
>>> question
>>> under that system. Nowadays it *might *be only seconds sometimes, but
>>> for a
>>> lot of people the average email response time is still measured in days.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 12:46 AM Yannis KOROVESIS/COROVESIS via
>>> Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Going further back than the Victorians wikipedia has the following about
>>>> "fryktoria" (translated from the Greek original ) as you suspect:
>>>>
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>>>> https://el-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/
>>>> %CE%A6%CF%81%CF%85%CE%BA%CF%84%CF%89%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1?
>>>> _x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=el&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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>>>>    Yannis
>>>>
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>>>>    On Apr 22, 2026, at 5:14 PM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
>>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    I recently visited Tom Standage’s blog post about The Victorian
>>>> Internet <
>>>> https://tomstandage.wordpress.com/books/the-victorian-internet/> and
>>>> noticed that he mentioned that Andrew Odlyzko <
>>>> https://www-users.cse.umn.edu/~odlyzko/> had read it.  Odlyzko’s name
>>>> also came up in some literature about the origins of Tier 1 ISPs.  He
>>>> used
>>>> to post here occasionally.  You might find some of the Internet system
>>>> level analysis you’re looking for in his papers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    --gregbo
>>>>
>>>>
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