[ih] History of the Economics of the Internet?

[Greg Skinner]

On Aug 4, 2026, at 5:32 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The piara BOF was at IETF 36 in June 1996 (Montreal), but no minutes were posted. The only concrete traces are at the URLs below.
> 
> However, I can tell you that there was considerable angst within the IAB and IESG about the antitrust aspect and a strong view from several IESG members that such discussions had no place in the IETF. I can't be more specific. I have a handful of emails about this from July and August 1996 but I feel that they are still confidential, under the IAB and IESG customs of that time.
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-bellovin-piara-framework-00
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-piara-cost-model-00
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/36/area.and.wg.reports/ops/piara-slides-96jun.ppt
> 
> Regards/Ngā mihi
>   Brian Carpenter
> 

The On the legalities of disucssing route charging <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cidrd/N51Zpd_9nz-b3V_oq9XqJUIzIuk/> thread from the cidrd mailing list seems to speak to this.

--gregbo