[ih] Cisco origins (Was: when did APRANET -TIPs become known as -TACs)

Karl Auerbach karl at iwl.com
Mon Sep 29 13:20:01 PDT 2025


When I was at Cisco there was a topic which seemed to be off limits - 
the legal disputes between Stanford and Cisco over the transfer of 
technology from Stanford to Cisco during those formative stages.  We 
were kinda nudged to not ask Kirk L. about these things.

I never knew the details of these disputes, other than I got the 
impression that they were kinda ugly.

My wife worked with Andy Bechtelsheim (sp) a few years later at SUN and 
I got the impression that he has lots of interesting tale about the 
formative periods of Sun and Cisco.

Getting back to Cisco:

When Geoff Baehr, Dave Kaufman, Frank Heinrich, and I were putting 
together the TRW response to the ULANA procurement from the Air Force 
Dave K. spent time with the Cisco folks.  David described Cisco as 
working out of a garage (but he could have meant rather sparse rented 
space that kinda had all the [dis-]comforts of a garage.)

             --karl--



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