[ih] Fwd: As Flag Day approaches at CMU

[Vint Cerf]

Great to hear from you, Wayne!!

Vint

Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:
Vint Cerf
Google, LLC
1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor
Reston, VA 20190
+1 (571) 213 1346


until further notice




On Sat, Sep 6, 2025, 09:11 Wayne Hathaway via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> An IBM 360/67 running TSS was at NASA Ames Research Center at Moffett
> Field, CA.  It was host 16 and its IMP was an early TIP..  And i can attest
> that it DID have an NCP because I wrote essentially all of it! And that was
> followed by a TCP/IP version just slightly after the switchover date.  I
> don't know about CMU.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 08:46:39 -0400, Clem Cole via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> >> The early maps show the CMU IBM 360/67 running TSS, but I was a
> programmer
> >> in that shop.  I don't think we ever had an NCP that worked with TSS.
> It
> >> certainly was not on the ARPANET when I was a programmer.   However, I
> note
> >> that later maps, the fourth port on the CMU IMP starts to show it as
> >> C.mmp.  Guy Almes might remember if that was ever active.
> >>
> >> Clem
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 6, 2025 at 7:22 AM Steve Crocker via Internet-history <
> >> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > IIRC, UCSB , Arpanet node #3, had an IBM 360/75 running OS/MVT.
> Prior to
> >> > being connected to the Arpanet they had a long-suffering attempt to
> add
> >> > interprocess communication to operating system so two partitions could
> >> > communicate with each other.  As I understand it, they never got it
> >> > working.  However, when they connected the machine to the IMP, two
> >> > partitions could communicate with each other by treating them as
> processes
> >> > communicating over the Arpanet.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> > Sent by a Verified
> >> >
> >> > sender
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Sep 6, 2025 at 4:34 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via
> >> > Internet-history  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Fascinating.
> >> > > I notice there's not mention of IBM VM/CMS which was the mainstay of
> >> > > EARN/BITNET.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it because there were no such computers on the Arpanet?
> >> > > Kindest regards,
> >> > >
> >> > > Olivier
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 06/09/2025 04:33, Barbara Denny via Internet-history wrote:
> >> > > >   Oops.  Somehow a .  got inserted in the url.
> >> > > > This one should work.
> >> > > > https://self-issued.info/Smiley/Arpanet_Protocol_Thread.html
> >> > > > barbara
> >> > > >      On Friday, September 5, 2025 at 08:10:41 PM PDT, Greg
> Skinner via
> >> > > Internet-history wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >   forwarded for Barbara
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> >> > > >> From: Barbara Denny
> >> > > >> To: Internet-history
> >> > > >> Sent: Friday, September 5, 2025 at 07:49:12 PM PDT
> >> > > >> Subject: As Flag Day approaches at CMU
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Some of you might be interested in this link.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> https://self-issued.info/S.miley/Arpanet_Protocol_Thread.html
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> It covers cmu messages as flag day approaches.  They were
> recovered
> >> > > when Jeff Baird was trying to find Scott Fahlman's smiley :-) bboard
> >> > post.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> The messages include when the ARPAnet  temporarily shut off  NCP
> twice
> >> > > before flag day.  Vint, was one of those times you ????? I think I
> >> > remember
> >> > > you mentioned doing this but I wouldn't be surprised if I am wrong.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> barbara
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Internet-history mailing list
> >> > > Internet-history at elists.isoc.org
> >> > > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history
> >> > > -
> >> > > Unsubscribe:
> >> > >
> >> >
> https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/9b6ef0621638436ab0a9b23cb0668b0b?The%20list%20to%20be%20unsubscribed%20from=Internet-history
> >> > >
> >> > --
> >> > Internet-history mailing list
> >> > Internet-history at elists.isoc.org
> >> > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history
> >> > -
> >> > Unsubscribe:
> >> >
> https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/9b6ef0621638436ab0a9b23cb0668b0b?The%20list%20to%20be%20unsubscribed%20from=Internet-history
> >> >
> >> --
> >> Internet-history mailing list
> >> Internet-history at elists.isoc.org
> >> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history
> >> -
> >> Unsubscribe:
> https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/9b6ef0621638436ab0a9b23cb0668b0b?The%20list%20to%20be%20unsubscribed%20from=Internet-history
> --
> Internet-history mailing list
> Internet-history at elists.isoc.org
> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history
> -
> Unsubscribe:
> https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/9b6ef0621638436ab0a9b23cb0668b0b?The%20list%20to%20be%20unsubscribed%20from=Internet-history
>