[ih] Archive of internet-history email (and others)

Andrew Sullivan ajs at crankycanuck.ca
Fri Mar 7 21:55:33 PST 2025


Dear colleagues,

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 10:51:25AM -0500, Jack Haverty via Internet-history wrote:

>Some other isoc.org lists say that the "Internet Society Code of 
>Conduct" applies.   That code prohibits republishing without 
>permission.  I couldn't find any information about who might have 
>gotten such permission.   The sign-up for this list however doesn't 
>reference that ISOC code.

Since I had a small part in getting this list hosted at isoc.org, I can tell you why this list doesn't refer to the Internet Society code of conduct.  It's because this isn't an Internet Society list.

Internet Society lists are operated by the Internet Society for the purposes of the Internet Society and its members (and anyone else who might be involved or interested, in a couple of exceptional cases I can think of[*]).  When this list found it needed a home, the Internet Society was running some lists, and it seemed easy enough just to add this list to that hosting.  (It turned out to be rather less easy than I imagined--which, come to think if it, may have been a slogan for my life for a little while.)  But it was at least never my intention that it would somehow become part of the Internet Society's operation or under its control.  It was just that we had the ability to offer a home to a resource that, in my opinion, is valuable to the Internet and its future.

As for the organization of the archive and the threaded view of presentation, there is a threaded view available in Mailman, but it is still nailed to the month in which the messaged arrived.  As far as I am aware, this is a limitation of Mailman, at least in the 2.x series.

Best regards,

A

[*] Internet Society lists also usually have a remarkably awkward, bothersome, and unintuitive way of managing membership in them.  That mechanism was a filthy hack created some time ago as an almost-reasonable workaround to a specification deficiency. It is one of the best-worst examples I can recall of the old rule that there's nothing so permanent as a temporary solution.  So far as I know, it hasn't actually been killed off yet, but it's supposed to be soon.  Let's all be grateful it wasn't visited upon this list.

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Andrew Sullivan
ajs at crankycanuck.ca


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