[ih] archiving the history of Internet-History

[touch at strayalpha.com]

Well, it’s a publicly available list, so anyone can jump in and help and your help is appreciated.

Joe (list admin/owner)
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Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
www.strayalpha.com

> On Aug 29, 2025, at 1:30 AM, John Gilmore via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> John Levine via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>> FWIW, the list archives are here and the Internet Archive drops by to save a copy every month or so.They go back to 2001.
>> https://elists.isoc.org/pipermail/internet-history/
> 
> The Internet Archive crawls and saves the list archives bimonthly, only
> because I have an Archive-It.org account (a service run by the Archive)
> and ask them to.  See:
> 
>  https://archive-it.org/collections/15071
> 
> The saved web pages go into the Wayback Machine's permanent collection
> as well as into my own little collection hosted at the Archive.  The
> full text from the saved pages can also be searched in a search box at
> the above URL (e.g. "flag day" produces hits on 9 sites, including 406
> messages from this list).
> 
> If you know of other web sites that should be in such an archive of
> Internet and Unix history, please suggest them to me.  I ask for
> one-time or annual crawls of historical (unchanging) sites, and annual
> or more frequent crawls of ones that get regular updates.
> 
> 	John
> 	
> PS: The Internet Archive's regular web crawls focus more on breadth than
> depth, so they would otherwise miss crawling down to thousands of
> messages from this list.  Also, a lot of web sites contain unintentional
> (or sometimes intentional) "crawler traps" that require manual
> configuration to avoid the crawler going down a rathole of
> www.foo.bar/symlink/symlink/symlink/symlink/foo.html forever.
> Archive-It provides ways to manually avoid such traps once your crawl
> has run down them once.
> 
> PPS:
>> Related museums have been contacted and are not available to support us.
> 
> I bet I know somebody smart enough at the Computer History Museum to at
> least subscribe a logfile to the existing list, which would accumulate
> new messages on a CHM server.  And a simple wget command, run once,
> would pull in the already-archived logfiles saved by Date to get all the
> past postings to the list.  At current storage prices, this would cost
> them a small rounding error.  Yes, it would break someday for a random
> reason, but at least it would get all the discussions up to that point,
> archived in a third place where neither an ISOC nor an IA failure could
> touch them.
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