[ih] early networking

[John Day]

All week and still don’t have an answer to my question.  That is very unusual for this list. ;-)

So far there has been a lot of conjecture, not even hearsay, but no facts.

Having a few moments, I went back to look at the May 1974 paper to see if had any clues, after all the title is "A Protocol for Packet Network Intercommunication.” I assume the answer was found prior to that paper. Is that true?

I found two major topics there: the early part of the paper spends time discussing protocol translation between networks and the rest of course describes the protocol that became TCP.

Is one of these insight to the solution?  Just trying to understand what it was.

Take care,
John

> On Apr 14, 2024, at 16:07, John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I am surprised that there was not a lively discussion of this.  It is an honest question. It is unclear to me what precisely the solution to internetworking was?  I don’t want to suggest anything and affect the answer, but I guess I could.
> 
> Take care,
> John
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2024, at 06:24, John Day via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> sorry forgot to hit reply-all
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [ih] early networking
>>> Date: April 9, 2024 at 06:22:45 EDT
>>> To: Sivasubramanian M <6.internet at gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> Nor was there about virtual circuits and X.25, but it was packet switching.
>>> 
>>> We have known this was totally different for 50+ years.  That isn’t the question. There are probably lots of ways to solve this problem. What was the solution adopted?
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 9, 2024, at 00:06, Sivasubramanian M <6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> John, 
>>>> 
>>>> There was hardly anything redudant, 'multi-path', decentralised, end-to-end free, open about telegrams.  OUR "InterNetWorks"  is something totally and fundamentally different from THEIR telephones and telegrams, hence it is unwise to allow THEM to trace the history of Internetworking to the telegram switches bought by the Army, Navy and Airforce !
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr, 2024, 09:19 John Day, <jeanjour at comcast.net <mailto:jeanjour at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>> I guess this begs the question, what was the solution to internetworking?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2024, at 23:33, Sivasubramanian M via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org <mailto:internet-history at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This history video narrated by an AI-like voice traces the history of the
>>>>>> Internet to telegraph switching and makes a passing suggestion that US
>>>>>> Army, Navy and Airforce instituted automated telegraph switching euipment
>>>>>> ... this was perhaps the first Internetwork. Clever argument.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr, 2024, 03:35 Vint Cerf via Internet-history, <
>>>>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org <mailto:internet-history at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> interesting pre-Arpanet/Internet history
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkwWZ6ujy0
>>>>>>> 
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