[ih] history of protocol bugs

Barbara Denny b_a_denny at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 13 09:34:13 PST 2023


 I was skimming through this a little more this morning and noticed that Dave Clark was listed for a presentation. However, he is not in the attendee list, he didn't provide his thoughts, and he is not in the photo that I see.  I am wondering if he didn't make it at the last minute or whether he might have called in.  I don't remember what phone capabilities existed at that time (perhaps a speaker phone?).  I am pretty sure he was at MIT then but there were no other MIT people listed as attendees so I doubt someone else did the presentation for him.  
BTW, I am not sure Keith Klemba is in the photo either. 
barbara
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 07:22:45 PM PST, Barbara Denny via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:  
 
  Thanks Jack!   I am wondering what happened to Jil.  She isn't in the photograph.  It would have been nice to have the only woman attendee in the picture.
barbara
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 03:32:23 PM PST, Jack Haverty via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:  
 
 In January 1983, the Internet had been operating as a "24x7 service" for 
a year or so.  Vint Cerf was leaving ARPA and Barry Leiner was taking 
over the ARPA Internet projects.   Barry arranged a "Network Management 
Workshop" in January 1983 to bring together a group of people who had 
been working on Internet projects to discuss how to manage the beast we 
had built and gotten some experience in operating and using.

The "Proceedings" of that workshop were unusual - we were asked, after 
the workshop had ended, to each write up short notes on what we thought 
about the state of the Internet and its future.  Much of what we thought 
was wrong - projecting that the Internet might eventually grow to 
contain the unbelievable configuration of 1000 networks for example.  
But those writeups might provide insight into what we were all thinking 
at the time about the technology inside the Internet.

I haven't been able to find those Proceedings anywhere online.   But I 
did find my paper copy in a box in the basement, along with a photograph 
of the group.  It's now been scanned.   Rather than inflict it on this 
mailing list, I've put it online for whoever wants to retrieve it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK8Lc22vidgnCxHhyT1qcHmhS82d7xzO/view?usp=sharing

I'm sure there are lots of other historical artifacts, many probably 
only captured in boxes in someone's basement.   The early days of 
networking were, IMHO, quite unusual.   Much of the interaction, 
discussion, and debate that might formerly have been captured in 
journals and learned publications was instead carried out using our 
new-fangled network.   There was no web or massive cloud warehouses 
yet.  So much of that history was only captured in email or other 
ephemeral files accessible through FTP from somewhere else on the net.  
All gone now, except for boxes in basements.

Hope this helps some historians...

Jack Haverty


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