[ih] Running long-term archives of this list?

[Bob Purvy]

Well, that was by me, Jack!  Are you one of my subscribers?

"Albert Cory" is my pen name. "Cory" is my niece's married name, and
"Albert" was my dad's brother, who was killed on his very first day on the
job at Swift & Co. in the Chicago stockyards. I don't make any attempt to
"hide" my real name.

Anyhow, it probably IS archived, since books take up a surprisingly small
amount of storage. I really doubt that Internet mailing lists are anywhere
in that block of storage. Those were already in electronic form and didn't
need scanning.

Although Google is by no means a "good guy" in everything, I think on this
issue, they bent over backwards to find some solution that was fair to
authors, *especially* the ones who are dead and no current owner can be
found.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 2:08 PM Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Yesterday I read a story about Google's small army of employees with
> yellow badges tasked with methodically scanning books in various
> libraries' collections to create a comprehensive digital archive, which
> unfortunately couldn't be available to the public for various reasons
> such as legal constaints of copyright et al.   I assume it's all well
> archived and backed up.
>
> Perhaps we just need to publish the archives as a book.    I suggest
> "Hairy Totter and the Denizens of The Internet".
>
> Jack
>
>
> On 2/13/23 13:52, vinton cerf via Internet-history wrote:
> > Carnegie-Mellon has an archive - check with Raj Reddy?
> >
> > v
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:03 PM touch--- via Internet-history <
> > internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, all,
> >>
> >> I’ve looked into this before. The obvious choice would be the Computer
> >> History Museum, but they didn’t know what I was asking for the last
> time I
> >> tried them.
> >>
> >> Very few places actually run true museum-quality backups or storage of
> >> ANYTHING (libraries are the exception). Even university archives don’t -
> >> they don’t separate acid-free from not, etc. And nobody moves data from
> >> medium to medium as it evolves, i.e., so we can read things in the
> future
> >> without needing a non-existent 9-track tape drive.
> >>
> >> If anyone finds a solution that’d work for free, please do keep me
> posted.
> >> Until then, I figure we rely on the kindness of places like the Wayback
> >> Machine.
> >>
> >> Joe (list admin)
> >>
> >> —
> >> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
> >> www.strayalpha.com
> >>
> >>> On Feb 13, 2023, at 8:27 AM, Dave Crocker via Internet-history <
> >> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>> Reflecting, once again, on the  considerable depth and breadth of
> >> historical technical knowledge that is regularly demonstrated on this
> list,
> >> I'm wondering about how robustly is is archives and how easily the
> various
> >> archives can be accessed.
> >>> Yes it's hosted by isoc, but I'm asking about long-term
> (museum-quality)
> >> data archival.  (We tend to think of back and archive as the same, but
> they
> >> aren't.)
> >>> Also note I cited 'running' which means that even this message should
> >> hit those long-term archives pretty quickly.
> >>> d/
> >>>
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