[ih] GOSIP & compliance

[Bob Purvy]

Actually, when I was still at Oracle (I don't know if you'd left by then),
Dimitris Nakos, Robert Ash, and I all went to Atlanta for the HP World
convention. We had a little Open View app we were demo'ing. I can't
remember if Open View could save its data to Oracle, or if that was just
being negotiated.

Don't come at me for Open View! It was one of those products that they'd
buy and keep by the door so the VP would see it, while the real operators
continued using ping and traceroute to do their work.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 10:30 AM Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> SNMP et al are mechanisms for data collection, i.e., retrieving all
> sorts of metrics about how things out in the network are behaving. But
> has there been much thought and effort about how to *use* all that data
> to operate, troubleshoot, plan or otherwise manage all the technology
> involved in whatever the users are doing?
>
> When I was at Oracle in the early 90s, I was immersed in a sea of people
> who knew a lot about how data was analyzed and used in all sorts of
> business processes.  So one day, one of the data-guys and I sat down in
> our Network Operations Center (more like a closet...) and cobbled
> together some shell scripts that used SNMP to collect whatever we could
> get, stuff it all into a database, and then use the well-worn standard
> database tools to analyze, aggregate, compare, predict, and visualize
> how our network applications were behaving.  It was literally a day's
> work, exploiting the synergy between SNMP data collection and database
> tools.   At that point, all that data from SNMP became actually useful
> for us in operating our own IT infrastructure.
>
> We also discovered quite a few bugs in various SNMP implementations,
> where the data being provided were actually quite obviously incorrect.
> I wondered at the time whether anyone else had ever tried to actually
> use the SNMP data, more than just writing it into a log file.
>
> I suspect that a "lack of accomplishment" in the SNMP/CMOT/etc
> activities might have been influenced by a lack of attention to how all
> that operations data might actually be used by IT operators and end
> users.   Curious too how such data is actually used by today's
> Operators.   Is it?
>
> Jack Haverty
>
>
> On 3/26/22 08:59, Dave Crocker via Internet-history wrote:
> > On 3/26/2022 8:51 AM, Bob Purvy via Internet-history wrote:
> >> We spent a lot of time debating CMOT
> >> vs. SNMP.
> >>
> >> I don't recall that anything much was accomplished.
> >
> > A fair assessment of the topic, more widely.
> > d/
> >
>
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