[ih] GOSIP & compliance

[Dan Lynch]

Yeah, I knew that the highly functioning shownet running TCP in Paris would put OSI to rest. By the next year in Berlin it was all over. 

Dan

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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Miles Fidelman via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> I seem to recall the story that, once Europeans saw the shownet at one of the European Interop shows, and realized that TCP/IP was working, while OSI was still vaporware... the game was over.
> 
> Dan.. you'd probably be the one to validate this.
> 
> Miles
> 
> Dan Lynch via Internet-history wrote:
>> At Interop we were a teaching organization about interoperability so while we were TCP/IP bigots if the world was going to OSI we would definitely teach that too. Only a few students signed up for the OSI courses. We only offered them for a few years. I think by 91 it disappeared. The buyer is king.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Cell 650-776-7313
>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Andrew G. Malis via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's been a while, but as I recall, as a part of this requirement,
>>> TCP/IP-to-OSI transition plans were necessary. While I was at BBN, I wrote
>>> such a transition plan for the MILNET (or it might have been for the DoD as
>>> a whole, as I said, things are hazy). I'm sure that it just went on a shelf
>>> somewhere once the requirement for a plan was met.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 1:02 PM Bob Purvy via Internet-history <
>>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I was around for all this, but probably not as much as some of you. So many
>>>> memories fade...
>>>> 
>>>> I've been reading this
>>>> <
>>>> https://courses.cs.duke.edu//common/compsci092/papers/govern/consensus.pdf
>>>>> .
>>>> This passage...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *By August 1990, federal agencies were required to procure
>>>> GOSIP-compliantproducts. Through this procurement requirement, the
>>>> government intended to stimulate the market for OSI products. However, many
>>>> network administrators resisted the GOSIP procurement policy and continued
>>>> to operate TCP/IP networks, noting that the federal mandate, by specifying
>>>> only procurement, did not prohibit the use of products built around the
>>>> more familiar and more readily available TCP/IP.*
>>>> 
>>>> ... in particular stuck out for me. Admins were required to go OSI, but
>>>> somehow it never happened.  Does anyone have any personal stories to relate
>>>> about this, either your own or someone else's?
>>>> 
>>>> *Disclosure*: I'm writing historical fiction, mostly because that's what I
>>>> want to do. So there won't be any actual names in whatever I write. I'm
>>>> interested in the private choices people make, not the institutions,
>>>> towering figures, and impersonal forces that most historians write about.
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