[ih] Preparing for the splinternet

Miles Fidelman mfidelman at meetinghouse.net
Tue Mar 15 07:49:01 PDT 2022


John Levine via Internet-history wrote:
> According to Dan York via Internet-history <york at isoc.org>:
>> I think NNTP had similar issues with the UX of news readers… but I also think there were larger issues there with
>> companies seeking to use news as a means to keep people inside their new walled gardens.. and also to provide moderated
>> experiences. (But that could be a whole other email thread.)
> I still run a moderated newsgroup which gets significant traffic.
I THINK, that DoD's logistics folks, still use NNTP as the platform for 
JOPES groups (anybody know for sure?).

>
> The problem with usenet wasn't the UI, which for the most part was the same as for
> mail programs (Thunderbird still does both.)  It was that like any freeish push medium,
> it was overrun with spam.  By the time we got the spam under control, most of the users
> had moved on to other places.
>
>
For a very short time, AOL was distributing an open source new server, 
that supported private newsgroups.  It was a really great alternative to 
running a listserver.

Unfortunately When AOL was sold, it went away.

It's a shame - NNTP has all the hooks for global identity and access 
control, based on crypto.  There's a real opportunity to build an open, 
distributed forum capability that isn't some technical abortion like 
Discord.  (Anybody want to collaborate on such a beast?)

Miles

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