[ih] ARPANET pioneer Jack Haverty says the internet was never finished
Miles Fidelman
mfidelman at meetinghouse.net
Sat Mar 5 07:09:02 PST 2022
Joe Touch via Internet-history wrote:
>
>> On Mar 4, 2022, at 12:44 PM, John Gilmore <gnu at toad.com> wrote:
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>> Joe Touch wrote:
>>> Multicast needs to include L2. Without that, routers would need to do
>>> serial copy for every host inside each L2, which is prohibitive ...
>> By that view YouTube, Zoom, podcasts, and CDNs are all "prohibitive".
> They copy at the source at the app layer, not in L2 anywhere.
>
> it’s not the BW, but the local serial copy operation and it’s state that are prohibitive.
>
No more prohibitive than doing it as an overlay. If anything, it's more
complex and resource intensive as an overlay. (Granted that we're
talking multiple overlays - but the cost here is interoperability.)
It's the same logic that applies to supporting a file system in
userspace, vs. supporting it as a kernel module.
Miles
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