[ih] ARPANET pioneer Jack Haverty says the internet was never finished

Bob Purvy bpurvy at gmail.com
Tue Mar 1 22:47:29 PST 2022


just an aside:

When the subject is *mainly* someone's name, I panic and think they died.

glad you're still with us, Jack.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:46 PM Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Yeah, that was me.   But the article's writer got some of the details
> wrong.   IIRC, I didn't "develop FTP"; not sure where that came from.  I
> think that Abhay Bhushan wrote RFC114, documenting FTP but I don't think
> even he'd claim to have invented it.   It was a team effort of lots of
> ARPANET denizens of the day.  Abhay's office was just a few doors away
> from mine, and I do remember annoying him persistently until he agreed
> to add some features we needed in order to implement email (MLFL, IIRC).
>
> Re the Long List -- I still have my notebooks from ICCB meetings where
> that list was kept on the whiteboard-du-jour.  At one meeting I copied
> the list into my notebook.  I'll see if I can find it and report back.
> One that I used in the talk was TOS, i.e., how should routers (and TCPs)
> treat datagrams differently depending on their TOS values.   There were
> 8 or so others on the list too.
>
> Jack Haverty
>
>
> On 3/1/22 19:27, the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via Internet-history
> wrote:
> > vis-a-vis "We Were Not Done Yet (starting at ~1 hr, min 7)
> > &
> > "We Still Had Long List of Things That Had To Be Figured Out Someday
> > and the technology kind of got out of our hands and
> > went out into the user's environment before it was read to go"
> > +
> > "It Should All Just Work But The Reality Is It Still Doesn't There's A
> Long
> > List of Things That Have To Get Done" (start at ~1 hr, 12 mins)
> >
> > curious if anyone has a copy or memory of what
> > the Long List of Things That Had To Be Figured Out Someday?
> > /
> > There's A Long List of Things That Have To Get Done?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 4:18 PM Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history <
> > internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/01/the_internet_is_so_hard/
> >>
> >> (start watching the video at 46 minutes in)
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