[ih] Usenet query
Mark Goodge
mark at good-stuff.co.uk
Mon Jul 13 08:05:10 PDT 2020
Afternoon all (or morning all, depending on where you are and what time
you're reading this).
Was anyone here involved in the early days of Usenet, or the drafting of
the various RFCs about it? If so, could you possibly help settle (or, at
least, illuminate) a debate I'm involved in elsewhere about the purpose
and uses of the "Organization:" header.
To give some background, it's fairly common these days for Usenet
providers to insert their own Organization header where one isn't
already set by the user. For example, Eternal September populates that
header with "A Noiseless Patient Spider", while AIOE, rather more
prosaically, uses the header to identify itself as "Aioe.org NNTP Server".
The question being debated is whether or not this is a valid use of the
Organization header. On the one hand, there are those who assert that,
by a strict reading of the RFCs, this header should only ever be added
by the end user (or the owner of the end user's machine), and the Usenet
provider shouldn't add it if the user omits it. In which case Eternal
September et al are in breach of the RFCs. On the other hand, there are
those who assert that the Organization can, legitimately, be the
organisation which provides a person with Usenet access, in which case
they are abiding by the RFCs. And, on the gripping hand, there are those
who assert that since the RFCs which mention the Organization header do
so purely descriptively, rather than making any kind of rule or
recommendation (the relevant paragraphs contain neither MUST nor
SHOULD), it's all irrelevant anyway because even if the RFCs described
what was common practice at the time they were written, that doesn't
necessarily have any bearing on contemporary practice.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
Mark
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